370z vs BRZ.......

kenchan · 01-17-2012, 11:16 AM

i think the best bang for buck for the BRZ/FRS is NOS. that would be the only way to go to keep it cheap and some WTF moment vs a Z.

Rusty · 01-17-2012, 06:14 PM

Anybody here read the Feb '12 issue of DSPORT mag? They did a quick road test of the FR-S in Japan. In the article, it has a note on the bottom of page 50 about future turbocharging. That Subi might offer a BRZ STI model around the '15 my. Also in the mag. GREDDY has done some work on it already.

Kingbaby · 01-17-2012, 07:37 AM

Yes we 300hp, 3000 or less pounds, and supercar styling at an affordable 25k.

Oh! A huge aftermarket!

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-17-2012, 10:41 AM

The BRZ is a nice lookin ride. The FRS even nicer. The japanese FT-86 will most likely be the sexiest one of the bunch. All I know is... if subaru or scion makes a TT??? Those 270hp can turn into about 420hp with a lil less than $3k on a 27-2800lb chassis???? I'M FLOORED! That's hot. That's how JDM culture flourished here in its roots.
They were low hp cars with an incredible amount of balance and supercar-like handling. Toyota and subaru are going back to the basics. I love it. They created nostalgia to their Brand... if you were a kid in 1982? You can remember when the first hatchback new style celicas and supras hit the street. They looked so hot. They were different compared to the streets flooded with Regals Monte's and seville's. Everyone was tripping at the new transam and camaro Fbody. And toyota was putting out these low horse hatches that easily outhandled the muscle. They snuck in through the back door. So did mitsubishi with the conquest/starion. While america was just learning how to build an aerodynamically correct car. Like the 1970-1980's Z cars. Japan went ahead and introduced another new affordable way of modification. ECU tuned power and turbocharging which was cheaper than dirt back then... try turbocharging now. It costs as much as a Z to do it right.

capitolism at its best.

Toyota f***ed up when they made the celica FWD and cancelled the supra, then MR2. As did honda when they cancelled the prelude 4ws, NSX and S2k. Or mitsu with the eclipse and EVO. THE ECLIPSE JUST NEEDED TO RETUTN TO IT AWD ROOTS! The evo just needed an interior upgrade.
Same with mazda... I hate roadsters and they don't capture what the gen1-3 Rx7's did and the RX8 is a joke on wheels.

As far as the Z goes. As much as I love the Z34 bodystyle and handling. I would love to see the next generation Z to be a 3000lb car or below with a smaller v6 and twin turbos. 3.0 pushing 270hp na and a TT option pushing 400hp. That would be an insane ride. The 80's and 90's were a great time for JDM cars. We need that back in all the brands.

cossie1600 · 01-17-2012, 07:25 PM

I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).

Rooster89 · 01-17-2012, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).

I think the prices had a lot to do with it too.

The yen to dollar, the profitability of aftermarket parts, etc.

m4a1mustang · 01-18-2012, 08:22 AM

It didn't take long for this thread to go from BRZ vs 370Z to 5.0 Vs 370Z

The Dimer · 01-18-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It didn't take long for this thread to go from BRZ vs 370Z to 5.0 Vs 370Z

It never does.

m4a1mustang · 01-18-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer

It never does.

"It never does."

Wat ?

Alchemy · 01-18-2012, 08:23 AM

^ Thats how I always think about it. If a car has 2 more cylinders it better be faster. On topic I think the 86GT and the BR-Z will be fun cars. As long as they come in under 25k its a sweet offering.

Mike · 01-18-2012, 08:59 AM

I think in a year or two I'm going to sell my CRZ and get a BRZ for a daily driver.

The Dimer · 01-18-2012, 09:49 AM

Take long for any comparison thread to turn into a 370Z vs Mustang **** flinging thread.

m4a1mustang · 01-18-2012, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dimer

Take long for any comparison thread to turn into a 370Z vs Mustang **** flinging thread.

Thanks for clarification... I needed a second cup of coffee.

Red__Zed · 01-18-2012, 10:03 AM

Side note, I would love to see a 2500lb sti.

Alchemy · 01-18-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Side note, I would love to see a 2500lb sti.

I was waiting for you to chime in on that.

01-17-2012, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
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01-18-2012, 08:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
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01-18-2012, 08:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 45 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3525	^ Thats how I always think about it. If a car has 2 more cylinders it better be faster. On topic I think the 86GT and the BR-Z will be fun cars. As long as they come in under 25k its a sweet offering. __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

01-18-2012, 08:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
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01-17-2012, 11:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	i think the best bang for buck for the BRZ/FRS is NOS. that would be the only way to go to keep it cheap and some WTF moment vs a Z.

01-17-2012, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	The BRZ is a nice lookin ride. The FRS even nicer. The japanese FT-86 will most likely be the sexiest one of the bunch. All I know is... if subaru or scion makes a TT??? Those 270hp can turn into about 420hp with a lil less than $3k on a 27-2800lb chassis???? I'M FLOORED! That's hot. That's how JDM culture flourished here in its roots. They were low hp cars with an incredible amount of balance and supercar-like handling. Toyota and subaru are going back to the basics. I love it. They created nostalgia to their Brand... if you were a kid in 1982? You can remember when the first hatchback new style celicas and supras hit the street. They looked so hot. They were different compared to the streets flooded with Regals Monte's and seville's. Everyone was tripping at the new transam and camaro Fbody. And toyota was putting out these low horse hatches that easily outhandled the muscle. They snuck in through the back door. So did mitsubishi with the conquest/starion. While america was just learning how to build an aerodynamically correct car. Like the 1970-1980's Z cars. Japan went ahead and introduced another new affordable way of modification. ECU tuned power and turbocharging which was cheaper than dirt back then... try turbocharging now. It costs as much as a Z to do it right. capitolism at its best. Toyota f***ed up when they made the celica FWD and cancelled the supra, then MR2. As did honda when they cancelled the prelude 4ws, NSX and S2k. Or mitsu with the eclipse and EVO. THE ECLIPSE JUST NEEDED TO RETUTN TO IT AWD ROOTS! The evo just needed an interior upgrade. Same with mazda... I hate roadsters and they don't capture what the gen1-3 Rx7's did and the RX8 is a joke on wheels. As far as the Z goes. As much as I love the Z34 bodystyle and handling. I would love to see the next generation Z to be a 3000lb car or below with a smaller v6 and twin turbos. 3.0 pushing 270hp na and a TT option pushing 400hp. That would be an insane ride. The 80's and 90's were a great time for JDM cars. We need that back in all the brands.

01-17-2012, 07:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	I thought the aftermarket scene died because people realize how stupid financially it is to dump $20K into a car that is worth $10K (and then to realize someone in a stock Mustang can smoke them).

01-18-2012, 09:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
The Dimer Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 632 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 16	Take long for any comparison thread to turn into a 370Z vs Mustang **** flinging thread.

01-18-2012, 10:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	Side note, I would love to see a 2500lb sti.