Car wars- Mustang, 370's, Camaros, Challengers...

m4a1mustang

Ummm... the Brembo car is not .87G... it's up there at .95 on the same skid pads they test the 370. Not sure where you're getting that from.

If we really want to get into this, the 370 does not "really corner better" than the Brembo 5.0... if it did then they wouldn't match times in the corners (excluding straights) and the 5.0 would not be right on the e92 M3's heels around a full course.

I've already shared my thoughts here comparing how both cars handle, so most of you know what's up.

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UNKNOWN_370

I did say its .95 mustang on the track. Street driving and track measurements are different. The Z doesn't lose grip where the stang does "ON THE STREET". All you're doing is saying what I said and rewording it then arguing the wrong point. Anyway, the 87 is off track. The numbers come from a MT comparo when they did both maneuvers on street and track. Comparing pre 2010 mustang to the 2011. The pre 2010 broke .79 on the street and 87 on the skid. The 2011 broke .95 on the skid. .87g on the road. I haven't driven the brembo stang, but the 5.0 gt premium that is the same price as my current car. I felt Z handled better but the stang was good. How does the Brembo Z compare to a NISMO. The NISMO breaks up to 1.02g on the pad.Anyway,
"I'm sure if we FI'd the Z to 420hp/360lb torque, we'd be on the heels of an M3 as well. "
The camaro is faster than us around a track too... doesn't make the camaro a better handler. My guess is what you call better is the torque taking you out of the turn better than the Z and the chassis being balnced enough to absorb it. The ONLY way to really know? Is to FI the Z to the same power level as the stang and see how the Z responds coming out. Anyway, how many mustangs did you own before you bought a Z and went back to stang????


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kellyefields

I submit that we bring on the Master Lock Challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Red__Zed

Please post a link to this comparison you Keep referencing.

UNKNOWN_370

Go find it yourself you link happy freak....

QUESTION???

Does the Mustang Forum Suck that Bad that even After they buy a Stang they Stay here to Throw Mustang TidBits down to Z owners????? Or is it really some type of David Quoresh subliminal, force-feeding of mustang bullsh1t to boost sales and try to beat Camaro popularity???
Or is it you guys wish you guys kept your Z's but greatly wish you did a 5.0 engine swap and you're trying to beat 5.0 in our brains so someone will do it?
Or are you guys trying to master SUBLIMINAL-TROLLING????

I call all of the above.

m4a1mustang

Maybe it's because we're still Z fans, and we have lots of Z friends here, and people like you continue to pull numbers out of their asses and it keeps us around. Imagine that.

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UNKNOWN_370

People like me???????? Oh so you're saying the stangs live axle can put down the same number on the street as it can on the track.... since you're the stang head. You find it and prove me wrong. Show me where the live axle has had near equal handling on the street than it does on a track. I am not looking for a almost 2 year old artticle. Has the live axle improved greatly on the street??? ABSOLUTELY. Rain capabilities improved since the 10, definately... are there inherent weaknesses on the live axle on the street vs an ind susp quality sports car"?? OF COURSE... Nothng in what I wrote were bad numbers or mustang bashing. You can find the same info just reading compilations of articles as well... but whatever stang.
You're Mr. I had one first.
You're Mr. I'm not only a member, I'm also the president.
And you bought the stang cuz it was sooooooooo much better than the Z that in spite of your "loooooove" for the Z you just had to buy the greatest car on the planet. And sorry that none of us know as much as you. Even if we been up against your cars and know a little something. Just a little. Like I asked before... how many stangs did you own before you went to a Z and then bought a Stang? A reason why I ask... you will find what you drive more to handle better if in fact you been behind one so long that its almost all you know as a vehicle. Now I know you came on here already with your AR and mustang praise... so I know you're experience with mustangs is way more than Z's in a time factor.

Fanboys only love their cars. There's a lot of cars I love equally or more than the Z.
But whatever.... you keep talkin' it.

m4a1mustang

Sorry man, but you can't put down made up numbers to support your argument and then tell me to go find proof to prove you wrong. That's not how it works.

Face it, there isn't an article. You made the numbers up to try and support your argument and you didn't count on people calling your bluff. Since you can't produce anything to support your claims, you are trying to spin it and pawn it off on me.

The rest of your post... I don't really know what all that means or how you even got to that point.

You are the one that implied I was a Mustang fanboy. To counter, I simply stated all of the things that I do involving the 370Z community because I still love the car and am still good friends with the people.

I love this part. When did I ever say I traded the car because the 5.0 was better? I am on record here saying the only reason I traded was because I had a lot of fun with the Z and wanted to try out a new ride. And guess what... I'm going to do the same thing with the Mustang when I trade it in on something else.

You're getting very defensive, Unknown. We all know why.

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Red__Zed

So it changed from "it's in a motor trend article" to "you prove me wrong?"

Life pro tip: burden of proof is on YOU.


side note: I've never owned a mustang before, and I echo mustang's sentiments. Riddle me that one.

Red__Zed

So, what you are saying is you completely made the numbers up?



I'm here for a couple reasons:

1) the humor
2) easy place to interact with some knowledgeable car guys (many of whom owned a Z at a point in the past)
3) the lolz

m4a1mustang

Since these numbers are so fresh in your mind, it's obvious you must have a link to this test you are talking about, or at least have a copy of an MT magazine with this test in your possession. So share your source with us, why don't you?

I've searched everywhere and guess what? I can't find any "test" that does anything (for any car) to compare the street vs. track grip. And if it's recent enough to include the 2011 Mustang it would be available online.

With regard to power... if you FI the Z to the same power-to-weight ratio I am sure the track times would be similar.

How many Mustangs did I own? How is that relevant? How many Zs (including your totalled 370Z) have you owned before your current one? You're trying to insinuate that I am a Mustang fanboy, but it's very well documented on these forums that I am far from it. I'm a car guy that just happens to like Z cars and Mustangs. Sue me. You on the other hand have stated time and time again (the quoted post is no exception) that you are a fanboy. So, what exactly is your point?

It's pretty obvious what's going on here.

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