The Z's future

UNKNOWN_370

Displacement and taking the way to modify and customize our motors are 2 different planets of comparison. I'm LoL'Ing the fact you can't see the difference between a aftermarket turbo and an aftermarket battery pack!


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m4a1mustang

Meh, there really isn't a huge difference. You are doing whatever you need to do to boost power given whatever the power source is. If it's an engine... you can force in more air. If it's a battery... increase the voltage.

Though instead of tuning cars we will be overclocking them.

And instead of GTM vs. Stillen it will be Intel vs. AMD.

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b1adesofcha0s

Bro, I'm running a quad core processor pushing 800 to the wheels

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UNKNOWN_370

Exactly, and it kills a century old tradition that has unified the world. Its like I said earlier. We have a world of vehicles to juice up. Leave the sports car traditional to invention. There's nothing like buying kewl shiny parts and installing them in your car. It would suck to mod my car soley by computer and battery upgrade.

m4a1mustang

I don't necessarily think it kills the tradition... it just changes it. I don't think gasoline powered cars are going to work for too much longer. There are too many headwinds facing the internal combustion engine.

Energy prices aren't going anywhere but up in the long run and it will get to the point where 99% of the people are priced out of having the option to drive a gas-powered car. Just think as the world switches to alternative fuels the availability of gasoline is going to drop. So even if you wanted to drive your "classic" around it would not be feasible day in and day out.

Obviously this won't happen overnight, but 30 years from now the world is definitely going to look much, much different. One way or another we'll have to adapt.

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UNKNOWN_370

That goes right back to when I said, you can change all the vehicles out there but the sports car should maintain its tradition as a gas engine. I know the reality will be that my family sedan or hauler will be EV. But now we are talking sports cars. Its a niche market that can remain gasoline for way longer than all other transpportation markets.

Rui Z

The less people use gasoline, the higher the gas cost per individual will be to maintain the infrastructures for gasoline production. Im not gonna drive a Z if it costs $20/gallon of gasoline.

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m4a1mustang

Well, at present there isn't a snowball's chance in hell for domestic oil. So there's really no reason to think we'll be supplying our own oil anytime soon.

Keep in mind oil is priced in dollars, and the Federal Reserve really likes a weak dollar. So take away the demand situation and you've also got inflationary pressures. Gas is really going to run with the next round of quantitative easing.

Sports cars tend to be at the forefront of technology. I think it's more likely for sports cars to make the jump to EV (or other fuel) at the same time as, if not before, the average family car. I doubt they'd linger if the world was in the process of making the switch to EV just so they could carry on some tradition.

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dAvenue

Care to explain why there is not a chance in hell for this?

I could say the same thing about EV vehicles. They are more expensive to manufacture, cost more to the consumer, produce dismal sales figures and do not contribute to a company's profit margin. Electric vehicles certainly do not exist to make money. The only reason they exist is to satisfy government regulations that dictate a company's overall carbon emissions score; EV cars lower that score.

Without question, the vast majority of money is made from sale of gasoline vehicles. Based on that alone, I can safely say there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that combustion engines will be obsolete in 30 years. The market for EV is too small and the cost of producing them is too large.

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b1adesofcha0s

It's like the transition from manual to dual clutch transmissions in modern day supercars. All the "enthusiasts" hated the thought of giving up a manual for an auto. If executed the right way, they feel the difference in performance when they drive it and they change their minds about it. Cars like the GT-R and Ferrari 458 are perfect examples of this. Now we're getting DCT's in hot hatches and other small cars as well.

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UNKNOWN_370

"Carry on some tradition"?????? Wow, why are you even here with a statement like that? S Its kinda hard to believe you are a true enthusiast of sports cars. I was actually paying attention to what you had to say and respected most of your opinions till you straight dismissed a huge reason why we get on forums everyday. I thought it was the commonality of loving these cars for what they are and also Love of tuning and everything that comes with it. Including our combustion engines. "Some tradition is why we buy Z's and why most buy muscle. I guess to you a sports car just means you are faster than most and that's it huh?

And the forefront of technology isn't so much all that true in the affordable sports car realm. A lot of that tech is hand me down tech from decade old exotics. The Z's SRM is a hand-me-down tech from DRM recalibrated to work on manuals. Vvel is just an update of older tech and the 7at is just dual overdrives. These are things that aren't huge breakthroughs. Its just improving on an old invention. Its not like the Z has the GTR tranny in it with other gadgetry and features. Your beloved mustang still rolling on a skate board suspension isn't screaming high tech at all. So I'm not sure where you get sports cars are at the forefront of technology? At least in the price range we are in.

Rui Z

I actually think the whole alternative fuel revolution (as in most people, >50%, in america will be driving them) will happen alot sooner than that (~10 years). Technology is moving so fast. Most people care more about price than anything else about a car. When gas prices go up more and more, alternative fueled cars will become the cheaper option.

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m4a1mustang

I think it will happen quickly too, I just don't think it's going to be a very fast transition to get all of the gas powered cars off the road.

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dAvenue

You won't be saying that when this country can finally become energy independent. When that era comes, gas prices will drop drastically. There are too many factors at play to know for all certainty that combustion engines are doomed.

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Spikuh

You will probably be holding your breath for quite some time waiting for the US to become energy independant. The multi-nationals are not going to let this market go without a very hard fight. I agree that internal combustion will be around for quite some time though.