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would it be wrong to sell my Z and get a Viper race car?

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am How deep I wonder. I was going to post a similar thread. I plan on keeping my Z and buying a track day

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Old 12-14-2011, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How deep I wonder. I was going to post a similar thread. I plan on keeping my Z and buying a track day car with littles treet usage. Unless I like it so much the Z goes away. Reliability etc, which year Viper should we be looking at? Pre nanny variety please.
Well, consider that a front-end on a Viper starts at around $15K for cosmetic damage.

Then consider that it runs 345's out back.

Then consider that qualified labor runs about $150/hr.

It can add up.

About the fastest "cheap" car to track is the C5 Z06. Very durable. Very cheap (except tires). Comparatively.

However, if you have the money and can drive well enough to make use of it, I have heard (never driven one) that the Viper is a helluva fun car...as long as you are smooooth.

The Gen IV Vipers are the best. The Gen III's had a crappier rear-end. Gen IV got the TR6060 and better diff. The '08 is the bargain, with the '09 having a few tiny kinks worked out, and the '10 being the pinnacle. Viper got better each year, regarding mechanical aspect.

At least, this is all I gathered when doing a ton of research on them when I was considering one over my Z06.

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Well, consider that a front-end on a Viper starts at around $15K for cosmetic damage.

Then consider that it runs 345's out back.

Then consider that qualified labor runs about $150/hr.

It can add up.
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Of course, but depending on disposable income, everyone has a threshold of diminishing returns on just how big a game they bring.

Me personally? I'm considering dumping my G20 for the clean Mid'90's hard-top equipped low-mile Miata one of my friends is selling this spring
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Of course, but depending on disposable income, everyone has a threshold of diminishing returns on just how big a game they bring.

Me personally? I'm considering dumping my G20 for the clean Mid'90's hard-top equipped low-mile Miata one of my friends is selling this spring
having a dedicated track car and tracking your car frequently implies a certain threshold of disposable income.

i thought you were getting a 370z?
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Well, consider that a front-end on a Viper starts at around $15K for cosmetic damage.

Then consider that it runs 345's out back.

Then consider that qualified labor runs about $150/hr.

It can add up.

About the fastest "cheap" car to track is the C5 Z06. Very durable. Very cheap (except tires). Comparatively.

However, if you have the money and can drive well enough to make use of it, I have heard (never driven one) that the Viper is a helluva fun car...as long as you are smooooth.

The Gen IV Vipers are the best. The Gen III's had a crappier rear-end. Gen IV got the TR6060 and better diff. The '08 is the bargain, with the '09 having a few tiny kinks worked out, and the '10 being the pinnacle. Viper got better each year, regarding mechanical aspect.

At least, this is all I gathered when doing a ton of research on them when I was considering one over my Z06.
Good news then:

Z labor is $130 now and tires are the same price. $15k front end is all part of crashing which I hope never to do.

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Separate question about handling. How does Viper handle tight turning mountain roads? Does it need a track to shine? Will my Z keep up without a straightaway?

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Good news then:

Z labor is $130 now and tires are the same price. $15k front end is all part of crashing which I hope never to do.

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You pay $2200+ for tires for your 370z?
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You pay $2200+ for tires for your 370z?

$1680. I priced the Vipers at about the same. Even if I was wrong, $500 on this vehicle will mot make or break the deal.

The deal just got broken when I saw the 36.5" head room. I'm nearly 6'3" and with a helmet I can't imagine fitting in. Unless two inches can be taken off the bottom of the seat. Can it?

I had forgotten all the near concussive blows to the head I received in my 300ZXtt on a few violent turns, with only 37.5" of head room. The 370 with the extra inch or so eliminated this. But with the helmet I need to move my seat around to an uncomfortable position just to look level forward.
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$1680. I priced the Vipers at about the same. Even if I was wrong, $500 on this vehicle will mot make or break the deal.

The deal just got broken when I saw the 36.5" head room. I'm nearly 6'3" and with a helmet I can't imagine fitting in. Unless two inches can be taken off the bottom of the seat. Can it?

I had forgotten all the near concussive blows to the head I received in my 300ZXtt on a few violent turns, with only 37.5" of head room. The 370 with the extra inch or so eliminated this. But with the helmet I need to move my seat around to an uncomfortable position just to look level forward.
I dont know how you fit in the z with a helmet. I'm only 6'1" and can't fit with one.

The viper felt like it had more room to me.
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I dont know how you fit in the z with a helmet. I'm only 6'1" and can't fit with one.

The viper felt like it had more room to me.
I fit just fine in the Z at 6'5" :P Do you have a booster seat or something in there? I do look forward to getting race seats that are lower than stock though.
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