would it be wrong to sell my Z and get a Viper race car?

Mike · 11-22-2011, 08:48 PM

I love the way the Z handles, but am just tired of all the compromises and shortcomings of it. I still need to fix the fuel issue and brake cooling, but thats really about it.

I have possibly found a race prepped viper that I could get for probably just a little less than what I could part out the Z and sell it and the parts for. Its caged, has cf doors, fuel cell, etc.

The seller is a vendor that I do a lot of business with, and I am going to ask them for more details tomorrow.

I just don't know, as I really love the Z. Hopefully, my friend with a Viper will be at Road Atlanta this weekend with Chin and I can get a ride with him and see what the Viper is all about.

whoLEEoh · 11-22-2011, 09:19 PM

Do what makes you happy man. It seems you want to upgrade. Do it or you won't be happy, just content.

azn370z · 11-22-2011, 09:20 PM

I thought you had a c6 but wasn't happy with it, will even more power be better? I don't think the z is a good track car mainly because of the fuel issue.

Red__Zed · 11-22-2011, 09:24 PM

Going to something that is already prepped really saves a lot of headaches. It's nice to be able to focus on the driving and not worrying about the car

b1adesofcha0s · 11-22-2011, 09:27 PM

I'd say go for the Viper (and then give me a ride at ZDayZ

)

N8GTOL · 11-22-2011, 09:43 PM

It would only be wrong if you regret getting rid of the z after playing around with the snake. I would try to get as much wheel time in a viper as feasible before making a decision. Best of luck!

laze1 · 11-23-2011, 08:03 AM

Hey, there are MANY Track/Race cars for sale this time of the year...drive them all.
Check the NASAforums.com and SCCAforums.com sites...as well as any brand specific sites.

If you are looking for power, the Viper has that for sure...but no traction control and it is a handful to drive. Just Google "Viper Crash: and see how many hits you get :-)

Things to look for in a used race car: safety gear and expiration dates, extra's like wheels and body panels, hours on the engine. Also look at replacement cost for big ticket items (engine/trans/wheels/etc)..have and how bad they have been crashed and repaired (most all race cars have been crashed)

Buy something FANTASTIC and them left me drive it.

hazzazi · 11-23-2011, 08:17 AM

go for the viper, that car is amazing!

ChrisSlicks · 11-23-2011, 09:29 AM

I drove a prepped Viper for a few laps on track. The torque is beastly, the steering feel isn't bad and the lack of computer system to interfere is actually a huge bonus (no ABS, no traction control).

The thing I couldn't come to terms with was trying to feel what the rear was doing. I'm sure that would probably come with more time. Before buying though, I would persuade the owner to let you take it out for at least half a session to see if it is something you would like. The high shifter is clumsy feeling, and the brake pedal takes some getting used to.

Z1804 · 11-23-2011, 09:31 AM

You should do it Mike. Carpe Diem bro! If you don't like the Viper you can always get something else.

Good luck!

Mike · 11-23-2011, 09:59 AM

I'm going to get more info on it and see if I can't get a ride in one at my track event this weekend.

I had a C6 but didn't enjoy it on the track as much as the Z. It didn't have a good feel to it, was kind of fast but numb.

m4a1mustang · 11-23-2011, 10:00 AM

Do it!

JB1 · 11-26-2011, 09:15 AM

Get it and come to Road America again next year!

Nikon FM · 11-26-2011, 10:11 AM

I might get flamed here but the road feel in a 911 is pretty amazing. A used say 2003-04 996 TT (AWD) is obtainable for ~40-60 depending on mods/miles and a 996 GT3 (RWD) which would be better is ~+50k minimum. No one has mentioned the P-car, but not really a bad track deal out of the box and the stock turbo is bloody quick.

ChrisSlicks · 11-26-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM

I might get flamed here but the road feel in a 911 is pretty amazing. A used say 2003-04 996 TT (AWD) is obtainable for ~40-60 depending on mods/miles and a 996 GT3 (RWD) which would be better is ~+50k minimum. No one has mentioned the P-car, but not really a bad track deal out of the box and the stock turbo is bloody quick.

Yes they are quick cars but as track cars they are very expensive to maintain and prep. You need to have deep pockets to run one of these cars on track.

11-22-2011, 08:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	would it be wrong to sell my Z and get a Viper race car? I love the way the Z handles, but am just tired of all the compromises and shortcomings of it. I still need to fix the fuel issue and brake cooling, but thats really about it. I have possibly found a race prepped viper that I could get for probably just a little less than what I could part out the Z and sell it and the parts for. Its caged, has cf doors, fuel cell, etc. The seller is a vendor that I do a lot of business with, and I am going to ask them for more details tomorrow. I just don't know, as I really love the Z. Hopefully, my friend with a Viper will be at Road Atlanta this weekend with Chin and I can get a ride with him and see what the Viper is all about. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-22-2011, 09:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
whoLEEoh Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 647 Drives: 2010 370z NISMO Rep Power: 15	Do what makes you happy man. It seems you want to upgrade. Do it or you won't be happy, just content. __________________ 2013 Boss 302

11-22-2011, 09:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 489	I thought you had a c6 but wasn't happy with it, will even more power be better? I don't think the z is a good track car mainly because of the fuel issue. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

11-22-2011, 09:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	I'd say go for the Viper (and then give me a ride at ZDayZ ) __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

11-23-2011, 08:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
hazzazi Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA, Virginia / KSA Posts: 648 Drives: 09 nismo Silver Rep Power: 17	go for the viper, that car is amazing! __________________ i Don't Drive Fast, i just Fly Slow.

11-22-2011, 09:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	Going to something that is already prepped really saves a lot of headaches. It's nice to be able to focus on the driving and not worrying about the car

11-22-2011, 09:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
N8GTOL Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 228 Drives: and flies Rep Power: 21	It would only be wrong if you regret getting rid of the z after playing around with the snake. I would try to get as much wheel time in a viper as feasible before making a decision. Best of luck!

11-23-2011, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
laze1 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 91 Drives: 370Z Nismo #75 K23 Rep Power: 15	Hey, there are MANY Track/Race cars for sale this time of the year...drive them all. Check the NASAforums.com and SCCAforums.com sites...as well as any brand specific sites. If you are looking for power, the Viper has that for sure...but no traction control and it is a handful to drive. Just Google "Viper Crash: and see how many hits you get :-) Things to look for in a used race car: safety gear and expiration dates, extra's like wheels and body panels, hours on the engine. Also look at replacement cost for big ticket items (engine/trans/wheels/etc)..have and how bad they have been crashed and repaired (most all race cars have been crashed) Buy something FANTASTIC and them left me drive it.

11-23-2011, 09:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I drove a prepped Viper for a few laps on track. The torque is beastly, the steering feel isn't bad and the lack of computer system to interfere is actually a huge bonus (no ABS, no traction control). The thing I couldn't come to terms with was trying to feel what the rear was doing. I'm sure that would probably come with more time. Before buying though, I would persuade the owner to let you take it out for at least half a session to see if it is something you would like. The high shifter is clumsy feeling, and the brake pedal takes some getting used to. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

11-23-2011, 09:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Z1804 Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 784 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 15	You should do it Mike. Carpe Diem bro! If you don't like the Viper you can always get something else. Good luck! __________________ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 Fairlady Z 2011 Calendar Now on Sale!!!

11-23-2011, 09:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	I'm going to get more info on it and see if I can't get a ride in one at my track event this weekend. I had a C6 but didn't enjoy it on the track as much as the Z. It didn't have a good feel to it, was kind of fast but numb. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-23-2011, 10:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Do it! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-26-2011, 09:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
JB1 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 748 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z sold Rep Power: 17	Get it and come to Road America again next year! __________________ Black Fangs // Black rear Valance // Berk CBE // COBB post MAF tubes // K&N drop in filters // Setrab Oil Cooler // Stillen Sway bars // Z1 SS brake lines // Stillen brake cooling kit // Harness bar //

11-26-2011, 10:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
Nikon FM Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 973 Drives: 03 996TT Porsche Rep Power: 606	I might get flamed here but the road feel in a 911 is pretty amazing. A used say 2003-04 996 TT (AWD) is obtainable for ~40-60 depending on mods/miles and a 996 GT3 (RWD) which would be better is ~+50k minimum. No one has mentioned the P-car, but not really a bad track deal out of the box and the stock turbo is bloody quick. __________________ Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"

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