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Originally Posted by ImportConvert I guess my question with the 370Z is...is it like a knight in tin-foil, or is it as quality as it feels on first touch--through and

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Old 10-27-2011, 04:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I guess my question with the 370Z is...is it like a knight in tin-foil, or is it as quality as it feels on first touch--through and through--. To me, it felt maybe 9.5 out of 10 as quality as a Cayman S except for the paint. (I did not drive the Cayman, just felt/sat/looked). I am just worried that at $40K, the car has an interior that looks $60K, and I hope that it doesn't fall apart like a $20K interior with extra money spent trying to put lipstick on a pig is all, if any of that makes sense?
My impression is that the Z's interior is the real deal. It's nice. You do begin to notice some "$40k" qualities in various ways when you drive the car every day, though, such as:

-ergonomics (for example, resting your arm on the left armrest does not put your hand in a great position to hold the wheel, for long drives - I drove an M3 and have to say it was PERFECT on this aspect)
-clutch smoothness (or lack thereof)
-clutch chatter
-knotchy shifter
-engine harshness above 5-6k
-incompetent traction control system
-can't open hatch from inside
-big blind spots (you get used to this quickly though, with proper side-mirror alignment)
-apparently, short people can't see over the big side mirrors

On balance, I think these issues are minor for what you are getting. And for people who use their Z as a weekend car, most of these are probably not an issue whatsoever. But when you DD a car, you will always catch on to its imperfections.
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IC,

I see you're alot closer to this move than I thought based on some of your earlier posts on this topic.

Some thoughts:

1. I agree 100% with you that everyone who loves cars should, at some point in their lives, own a supercar or car w/supercar performance, it's totally worth it.

2. House > car all day long if you plan ot be in an area long term. I think you've posted before that you'll be looking to purchase property/house once you move.

3. The 370z will, if you're looking for a 2 seater sports car, do everything just good enough to keep you happy, while it's no 505bhp rocket, it's plenty fast and enjoyable on the street. I can totally empathize with having a car you can't open up at all legally except for the track.

4. Trans issues seem to be less frequent in 2010+ Z models. I have a '10 and have no problems, even after 4 track days and almost 14K miles.

5. Good luck with your decision/purchase.
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-clutch smoothness (or lack thereof)
-clutch chatter
-knotchy shifter
-engine harshness above 5-6k
FYI, these are all 6MT-specific. The 7AT doesn't share these problems

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-incompetent traction control system
This is a big one to me. They really could have done a better job making it less-invasive than it is. It tries to nanny you too soon and too harshly. At the very least, maybe a programmable option to make it default-off instead of default-on would have been nice.

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-big blind spots (you get used to this quickly though, with proper side-mirror alignment)
The "proper" side-mirror alignments are indeed proper, and there is no blindspot when you set the mirrors correctly. The problem is not with the car, it's with the 95% of the population that's apparently never learned to adjust a side mirror correctly.

I'll add two more complaints to your list:

- Power sockets. One hidden where passengers will inevitably damage it with their feet (or anything plugged into it) and the other hidden inside the center console? They should've killed the one under the glove box, and replaced it with one in the center stack near the ac/radio area. That or just dropped it and put a couple of USB power-outs there.

- Dangerously Addictive. I swear this Z is like crack. It's just too much fun to drive and too easy to mod. Look me up in 5 years and you'll find me selling body parts to keep up my Z addiction. I can hear it now: "I'll give you a kidney for a set of brake pads and a track day fee".
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- Power sockets. One hidden where passengers will inevitably damage it with their feet (or anything plugged into it) and the other hidden inside the center console? They should've killed the one under the glove box, and replaced it with one in the center stack near the ac/radio area.
I learned something new today. I had no idea there was a power socket under the glove box. Seems like an odd place to put one.
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You and JDM. Honestly you could say the same thing about any car in this price range.

Nothing is going to be "just right" south of $40k.

I have to jump up to GTR/911 and higher to find a car that I wouldn't feel the need to change anything on.
/\ I'd amend that to be 100-150K honestly.

If you picked up a 911 or GTR, I can GUARANTEE you that w/in 6 mo or less, you'd be looking at tweaking/improving certain things here or there. It's just the way it goes with folks like us.
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/\ I'd amend that to be 100-150K honestly.

If you picked up a 911 or GTR, I can GUARANTEE you that w/in 6 mo or less, you'd be looking at tweaking/improving certain things here or there. It's just the way it goes with folks like us.
How are we doing with setting up that support group?
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How are we doing with setting up that support group?
I need to get on that. I brb, I'm going to receate a thread for us...
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it's done, check out my new thread in the lounge section. God help us all.
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/\ I'd amend that to be 100-150K honestly.

If you picked up a 911 or GTR, I can GUARANTEE you that w/in 6 mo or less, you'd be looking at tweaking/improving certain things here or there. It's just the way it goes with folks like us.
People adapt. Period. You see TT Gallardo's, no?

I have adapted to 505bhp.

332bhp will be a bitch for a while, then that too will feel the same to ME as 505bhp did.

The interior is worlds ahead. THAT and the smaller note and equal handling (albeit a bit quirkier from what I hear) is the impetus for the trade.
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My impression is that the Z's interior is the real deal. It's nice. You do begin to notice some "$40k" qualities in various ways when you drive the car every day, though, such as:

-ergonomics (for example, resting your arm on the left armrest does not put your hand in a great position to hold the wheel, for long drives - I drove an M3 and have to say it was PERFECT on this aspect)

...

-engine harshness above 5-6k
...

-apparently, short people can't see over the big side mirrors
Ach -- yes, yes, and yes (a mere 5'7" with perfect posture).

I can't ever seem to get the steering wheel or seating height just right for the arm or the eyes, and we all know the Z sounds less than harmonious over 6K.

Still -- I loves it
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