Must read now 370 vs Camaro.. !!

MC · 05-06-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ?

glad theres "the370z.com"

me 2

gotawd · 05-07-2009, 02:50 AM

something funny I found when browsing the STi forum.

Camaros are so fast that... - IWSTI.com: Subaru WRX STI Forums

RoccoSiffredi · 05-07-2009, 10:02 AM

Well I am in the market for one or the other. Both cars are great and serve similar purposes but have different approaches to execution. Obviuosly the Z will be more precise, tossable, and have better handling. However the Camaro is handles well enough for most situations and puts down more power. No need to argue about which is better, the cars are just different.

Sure there is some ignorant bashing on that forum, but I have seen the same here. References to Corvettes and Camaros and rednecks etc. In terms of the whole "buy American" thing, that's not really my bag. Buy what you want. On the flip side, I have experienced the opposite level of ignorance from some of my friends who refuse to even consider something American.

It's funny how defensive people in general can get about personal possesions. That's why I have quit frequenting guitar forums (gear page, etc.) as much as I used to. It always turns into a flame fest about how Gibson sucks, PRS sucks etc etc.

I really love both cars. It is going to be a tough decision.

NIZMOZ · 05-07-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ?

i also left from that site... especially all the bagging and everything had to do with some "17 year old with a Z" nonsense.. too many jealous men on that site. glad theres "the370z.com"

More like jealous kids. The site use to be good back in 03-04. Now everyone knows better than everyone else. And they just want to argue with anyone.

KiRiMa · 05-07-2009, 02:52 PM

Cars are cars.I have an appreciation for both "imports" and "domestics." When summer comes there's a car show I go to at a subshop called Genro's in my hometown. You'll see everything from old school muscle to exotic supercars in the parking lot. For the most part ,the majority of the crowd are there to check out all the rides( I rarely hear any disparaging remarks about country of origin.) The bashing that goes on between the imports,domestics,N/A or F/I is really pointless.If you are a car lover that should be common ground . All the hating and bashing is simply immature and foolish. I for one would love to own a 370 Z and in the same breath I would die to have a '67 Corvette sitting in my garage.

shabarivas · 05-07-2009, 03:09 PM

give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.

Honestly if you are buying the Z for speed - you are quite stupid - it is a track ready dd car. Camero can go straight in a line... but to me any car can do that with enough $$...

eXo5 · 05-07-2009, 06:00 PM

"I like a fine body regardless of the make or model"

MightyBobo · 05-07-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.

GTO or G8. Both proved to be VERY solid cars, particularly interior-wise.

m4a1mustang · 05-07-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ?

american cars die or there are engine problems within 5-7 years.. u see more old asian cars on the street then american.... new camaros r sick, but if i had to choose 1 car that would be reliable... yes... it would be the 370.. IMO

LOL that is a stupid post.

razgriz_09 · 05-07-2009, 08:57 PM

this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro

RoccoSiffredi · 05-07-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.

Honestly if you are buying the Z for speed - you are quite stupid - it is a track ready dd car. Camero can go straight in a line... but to me any car can do that with enough $$...

What's a Camero?

Lot's of great domestics under $60k. My GTO certainly didn't feel like a run of the mill car. The GT 500 is a sweet deal, not to mention a regular C6 Corvette. I also think the new Camaro is the best performance bargin on the market right now. $34K for 2SS with 426 horsepower, leather etc.

Love the Z and love the Camaro, the two are not mutually exclusive. I will end up with one or the other!

RoccoSiffredi · 05-07-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by razgriz_09

this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro

Camaros have always gotten a bum rap in terms of handling, but whe you put them on a road course and look at the times they do extremely well. Go back to the Escort Cup days of the 80s and the SCCA days from 1990 on up to 2002. Look at the trap speeds in the quarter mile, it's only going to get worse.

psteng19 · 05-07-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrabyss

Did Nissan get a federal bailout and is it in danger of bankruptcy? I like the Camaro but right now GM just doesn't instill me with a feeling of consumer confidence.

Not a government bailout, but they were in danger of bankruptcy and had to be bailed out by a Renault deal.

MightyBobo · 05-07-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by razgriz_09

this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro

As soon as you start arguing HP per cylinder, you may as well label yourself as "ricer" immediately....

426 HP is 426 HP, regardless.

And either way, the Camaro isn't competition for the 370...the magazines just want it to be. It'll sell extremely well, no matter what - it had 15000 pre-orders for gods sake!

antennahead · 05-07-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

More like jealous kids. The site use to be good back in 03-04. Now everyone knows better than everyone else. And they just want to argue with anyone.

LOL, so true. This is an EXACT quote from one of the members there concerning the 370:

"I did the exact same thing. It was like the perfect entry point since sellers were under the illusion that the 370z would be better, I got fantastic pricing on my 350z and, IMHO, a far superior car."

I just copied this tonight, a thread that was started for honest discussion, but as usual ended up full of "the 370 sucks/350 is far superior" posts. Any 370 owner who tries to post anything positive about his car gets mauled, lol. I tried to tell a few of them to come over here, and the moderators removed the link to this site, even in the PMs I sent..... can you believe that paranoia! LOL
And I still love the 350, it's a Z for God's sake!

John

05-07-2009, 02:52 PM	#50 (permalink)
KiRiMa Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 11 Drives: Some day... Rep Power: 16	Cars are cars.I have an appreciation for both "imports" and "domestics." When summer comes there's a car show I go to at a subshop called Genro's in my hometown. You'll see everything from old school muscle to exotic supercars in the parking lot. For the most part ,the majority of the crowd are there to check out all the rides( I rarely hear any disparaging remarks about country of origin.) The bashing that goes on between the imports,domestics,N/A or F/I is really pointless.If you are a car lover that should be common ground . All the hating and bashing is simply immature and foolish. I for one would love to own a 370 Z and in the same breath I would die to have a '67 Corvette sitting in my garage. __________________ Doko made kaizo shizomashitaka?

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RoccoSiffredi Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13 Drives: Bad Motor Scooter Rep Power: 16	Well I am in the market for one or the other. Both cars are great and serve similar purposes but have different approaches to execution. Obviuosly the Z will be more precise, tossable, and have better handling. However the Camaro is handles well enough for most situations and puts down more power. No need to argue about which is better, the cars are just different. Sure there is some ignorant bashing on that forum, but I have seen the same here. References to Corvettes and Camaros and rednecks etc. In terms of the whole "buy American" thing, that's not really my bag. Buy what you want. On the flip side, I have experienced the opposite level of ignorance from some of my friends who refuse to even consider something American. It's funny how defensive people in general can get about personal possesions. That's why I have quit frequenting guitar forums (gear page, etc.) as much as I used to. It always turns into a flame fest about how Gibson sucks, PRS sucks etc etc. I really love both cars. It is going to be a tough decision.

05-07-2009, 03:09 PM	#51 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me. Honestly if you are buying the Z for speed - you are quite stupid - it is a track ready dd car. Camero can go straight in a line... but to me any car can do that with enough $$...

05-07-2009, 08:57 PM	#55 (permalink)
razgriz_09 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 6 Drives: Nothing Rep Power: 16	this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro