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Originally Posted by MC@MYGTR cobalts have the wheel weights on the calipers? ROFL, I didnt even see those, I figured it was just something behind the caliper lol. Nice.

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Old 05-06-2009, 10:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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cobalts have the wheel weights on the calipers?
ROFL, I didnt even see those, I figured it was just something behind the caliper lol.

Nice.
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nope superglued to the top of them lol.

where i got the idea to go look for them and sure enough they exist

Jalopnik - 2010 Chevy Camaro Gets Mysterious Brake Weights - 2010 Chevrolet Camaro

The confusion started when a poster uploaded an image of his new Camaro's Brembo calipers, on which were riding two rows of lead weights, normally affixed to the inside of a wheel rim to balance the tire. This led everyone with a Camaro to run outside to see it their mullet machine's also had the weights, which they do, at least on among the folks on the forum. GM has not answered to the confusion yet, but the leading theory is they were place on the caliper as a quick and dirty fix to alleviate brake squeal. From a physics perspective, this explanation is plausible, as resonant frequency is in large part determined by mass, and by changing the vibrating mass of the caliper with the weights, a troublesome squeal would be eliminated for a particular driving condition.

The trouble is if they're using normal brake weights, the heat cycling of the caliper will eventually cause the adhesive to fail and, if things get too serious on the track, the lead could actually melt. Though it's an odd issue and not really a big deal, we'll be keeping you in on the loop during Camaro brake-gate, though we recommend Camaro owners visit their local dealer and have their muffler bearings, blinker fluid, and piston-return springs checked out, just in case


other camaro "issues"

grill cracks at high speed runs this one seems fixed

power failure @ 40 miles from the dealership GM issued a recal today on this one
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Are Camaro's even available yet?
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Are Camaro's even available yet?
yea starting to trickle into lots here and there. the local dealer to me got their first one today and had a big unveil for it so i went up there to check it out
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give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.

Honestly if you are buying the Z for speed - you are quite stupid - it is a track ready dd car. Camero can go straight in a line... but to me any car can do that with enough $$...
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give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.
GTO or G8. Both proved to be VERY solid cars, particularly interior-wise.
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give me a good American car that doesnt feel like the run of the mill car and i will stop complaining. So if i could have a ford GT or a vette or a viper i would not complain... however, when it comes to the average non 60k plus American car - i am not a firm believer. However, the camero is yet to prove itself to me.

Honestly if you are buying the Z for speed - you are quite stupid - it is a track ready dd car. Camero can go straight in a line... but to me any car can do that with enough $$...
What's a Camero?

Lot's of great domestics under $60k. My GTO certainly didn't feel like a run of the mill car. The GT 500 is a sweet deal, not to mention a regular C6 Corvette. I also think the new Camaro is the best performance bargin on the market right now. $34K for 2SS with 426 horsepower, leather etc.

Love the Z and love the Camaro, the two are not mutually exclusive. I will end up with one or the other!
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this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro
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this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro
Camaros have always gotten a bum rap in terms of handling, but whe you put them on a road course and look at the times they do extremely well. Go back to the Escort Cup days of the 80s and the SCCA days from 1990 on up to 2002. Look at the trap speeds in the quarter mile, it's only going to get worse.
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this is just funny lol gm has to use a huge 426hp v-8 to run with the 370z lol lets see...426/8=53.25hp/cylinder 332/6=55.33hp/cylinder 426/6.2=68.21hp/liter 332/3.7=89.73hp/liter okay so the 370z engine is better...hmm .97 vs .90 skidpad and wow the beat us by .3 at the most on the 1/4mi (give the 370z launch control like the camaro and see what happens lol)....and its 35k vs 35k so same price all a camaro does is go straight fast but the numbers arent worth 35k for 35k a 300zx will just brutally manhandle rape a camaro
As soon as you start arguing HP per cylinder, you may as well label yourself as "ricer" immediately....

426 HP is 426 HP, regardless.

And either way, the Camaro isn't competition for the 370...the magazines just want it to be. It'll sell extremely well, no matter what - it had 15000 pre-orders for gods sake!
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As soon as you start arguing HP per cylinder, you may as well label yourself as "ricer" immediately....

426 HP is 426 HP, regardless.

And either way, the Camaro isn't competition for the 370...the magazines just want it to be. It'll sell extremely well, no matter what - it had 15000 pre-orders for gods sake!
Why would you say that their not competition for each other they're both Mid 30's two door sport coupes. Both putting up pretty close numbers to each other. Sound like pretty good cars to cross shop. If only Nissan would put a V8 in the Z it would be a monster.
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Why would you say that their not competition for each other they're both Mid 30's two door sport coupes. Both putting up pretty close numbers to each other. Sound like pretty good cars to cross shop. If only Nissan would put a V8 in the Z it would be a monster.
One is a pure sports car and the other is a muscle car. They're not comparable. Put both of them on a racetrack and the differences will be obvious.
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One is a pure sports car and the other is a muscle car. They're not comparable. Put both of them on a racetrack and the differences will be obvious.
A good majority of these car will never see the track though or at best once of twice a year (especailly with the 370's overheating problem if Nissan dosent fix that). I'm speaking in terms of everyday use plus the number for both on the track are pretty close from everything I've read.

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