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Originally Posted by Methodical4u At least the people here aren't asshats like the MS3 forum people... total losers. Cause we roll that way.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You've done your homework and you sound well informed. So imho the choice
boils down to what you feel in your gut. I can only go by my experience.

IMHO again the 370 in it's class range has no equals. The cars are rare and you will stand out in a crowd,though thats not why i bought mine...

It's hard to explain but the 370 is to nissan what the corvette is to Chevrolet.
Tradition and History... In fact the vette is the only car i would trade my 370 in for.
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You've done your homework and you sound well informed. So imho the choice
boils down to what you feel in your gut. I can only go by my experience.

IMHO again the 370 in it's class range has no equals. The cars are rare and you will stand out in a crowd,though thats not why i bought mine...

It's hard to explain but the 370 is to nissan what the corvette is to Chevrolet.
Tradition and History... In fact the vette is the only car i would trade my 370 in for.
especially your blue... they couldn't find a single one at my dealer when I was looking for Z's, the white was a very close second choice though so I was ok with it.
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Lol I'd take a 370Z any day, or even a 07-08 350Z Grand Touring 6MT loaded up. I've driven the Genesis coupe few months back. The Genesis Coupe wasn't very appealing to drive and simply lacked the wow factor. I've seen tons of Genesis where I live and most of them don't even sport the Hyundai badge and replaced it with the Genesis badge, almost as if they were ashamed of their purchase.

Plus where I live, there are tons of Genesis Coupes and hardly any 370Zs. If I am lucky, I may see 1 or 2 370Zs per week. Another benefit for getting the Z is you'll have a car not everyone and their mothers have.

You obviously seem to care about what car you would want to get since you even bothered posting on forums about the 2 cars. I mean it is your hard earned money. Go get something you can be proud of and stands out from the crowd. Otherwise, just go buy a lame family car that you can find a good deal on. If you still can't decide, then go test drive both cars again. And this is a Z forum so peoples' opinions will be biased.
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Ok..I have finally read through all of the posts and now will commence to comment.

I too was looking at the Gen Coupe in addition to the Z. I test drove the 3.8 GC Track, but found the fit and finish (as well as the general quality of the interior) to be somewhat disappointing. I also found the transmission to be somewhat notchy and in need of being pushed a bit harder before it was really fun. Yes, the cabin noise is somewhat quieter than the Z..but so what, it's a sports car. While you do get a lot for your money with the Gen Coupe and they have truly improved in leaps and bounds from the early 90's Excel fiasco, the transmission really worried me. Hyundai owners are finding it necessary to get them replaced with alarming regularity. This was enough to dissuade me from looking further.

In the end I preferred the styling, fit and finish of the Z. The transmission is strong and I have no concerns about whether it is reliable enough to make it 100k miles.

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I would say buy the Z to help boost sales but... honestly, you seem to be a gencoupe man. Your sporting intentions are practically nill. As a matter of fact sport packages on either is a serious waste of cash. You can have a smoother ride that would be more compliant to your lack of an aggressive driving style. If I were you i'd look into the genesis coupe grand touring 3.8 or 2.0 premium if you really want to get a great bargain. If you want a little flash and class to your style try a certified G37 with premium package. I highly recommend test driving that car as well.
It just seems like after a few months of driving the Z and the kool factor has worn down some. You will look at how impractical a 2 seater would be compared to a gt. Remember. The Z has only 6.9cu ft of angled trunk. The gen gives you a 10cu ft box trunk and the rear seats so there's ample storage. Someone who isn't aggressive in his driving should truly consider practicality as part of the whole package
If you were a performance nut. I would say go with the Z. But you aren't so the Z is near pointless.
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ClevelandCWRU , very good descriptive write up! Welcome to the forum.
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ClevelandCWRU , very good descriptive write up! Welcome to the forum.


it shows that you really put some thought into your question, and I certainly appreciate that. It's so much better than a number of the first posters that create a new thread and say such nonsense like:

"I think the Mustang is so much better than the Z in every way. Let the flaming begin."



Your post was to the point, well organized and eloquent.

Welcome to the community. i hope you purchase a Z so you can continue to provide support for what I believe to be an awesome car.
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it shows that you really put some thought into your question, and I certainly appreciate that. It's so much better than a number of the first posters that create a new thread and say such nonsense like:

"I think the Mustang is so much better than the Z in every way. Let the flaming begin."



Your post was to the point, well organized and eloquent.

Welcome to the community. i hope you purchase a Z so you can continue to provide support for what I believe to be an awesome car.
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Mustang vs 370 come on now that's a total different animal.

But a Hyundai,is aHyundai and always will be..They have come a long way.

But no one on here has mentioned so has the Z cars. I'm not a hater it just
sounds like something you might mow your grass with.
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I think this is the first thread where someone was kenchan'd, and then kenchan'd him back. Followed by a string of kenchan's. This should be stickied!

OK, back on track: OP, I was somewhat in your shoes several years ago when I was ready to re-enter the sports car market after a truck phase. The 350Z had just come out, and I loved the styling and performance. But I still had 2 kids to tote around, so I bought an RX-8. If I were in that situation today, the Genesis Coupe would definitely be on my list.

I would argue that while similar in some ways (RWD, price, etc.) the Z is really a different animal simply because it is a true sports car. But there is nothing wrong with getting a sporty car instead. And is Hyundai's warranty still crazy long? That would get my attention.

As an aside, the most reliable car in my household is the 2005 Hyundai Elantra my son drives. Bought it from a friend and know the service record. Other than scheduled maintenance, it only has required plug wires. Komapseumnida!
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it shows that you really put some thought into your question, and I certainly appreciate that. It's so much better than a number of the first posters that create a new thread and say such nonsense like:

"I think the Mustang is so much better than the Z in every way. Let the flaming begin."



Your post was to the point, well organized and eloquent.

Welcome to the community. i hope you purchase a Z so you can continue to provide support for what I believe to be an awesome car.
Thanks you (and dad, hansoac and others!)! There's a reason for the way I'm approaching this purchase the way I am. I''m trained to seek factual information obtained through data and/or observation (hence engaging previous/current owners) as well as to recognize and account for bias. Without getting into too many details, I work in a heavily technical field and in my role its necessary to maintain as objective of a view of issues/problems as possible. I also do a fair bit of technical reading, occasional writing. That's the scientist part of me, the engineer part wants to know every @#$! detail..


In all honesty I actually know quite a bit more about either can than I initially let on. Believe me, I could fill up pages with observations of the minutia of each car that would bore even the enthusiasts here.

In other news, 370Z pulling ahead as my favored choice. Drove it again today, may just end up purchasing one off the lot if an agreeable figure can be reached. One dealer has a 370Z in the exact color, options I want, but it's a leftover previous model year. Not surprisingly, saying they don't sell well in rural Ohio would be an understatement. Most folks around here prefer (ok, demand) their sports cars be of the American variety. Anyway, it's brand new, no miles, not a demo, never titled and I'd definitely be open to buying it. While they have discounted the price, it isn't far off what I could buy a 2011 for with my corporate discount. It's not an inconsiderable amount, but it's not enticing enough to make buying it over a 2011 worth my while. I know they must really, REALLY want to move it by now so I think I can get a better price. Wish me luck!
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yah, i spent waaaay too much time on this tread. lol
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OP, one thing that has been mentioned by myself and others is what I consider a "special car" the Z is one of those, always has been and always will be. The Evo, is a special car, the STI, GTR, Corvette, special edition type mustangs (I don't consider all V8's to be that, but some may), the GT-R... etc etc. The thing is however that with some of these cars, there are still A LOT of them... the Z there isn't so much. I don't know what the numbers are, but you can ask certain dealers and they will tell you how many that are here. I remember my first Evo was an RS which is the stripped down model with crank windows and door locks. The sucky part is that I found out for my year there were only like 350 or so of these cars nationwide. It would have held it's value greatly.. but oh well.. I wanted something better than a 2 star side impact rating (which is why you saw no 2007 model)

Anyway, again if you think you might sell the car in a few years, you'll lose a lot less on the Z than on the GC.

Just wanted to add that... I feel comfortable in saying come on and join us!
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Get a TC. Sporty looking and drives okay, but nothing special.
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