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The Miata often wins the best buy in the sports car category on CR. And let's face it, it's by far the most practical and least expensive for the fun
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The Miata often wins the best buy in the sports car category on CR.
And let's face it, it's by far the most practical and least expensive for the fun it provides. On the other hand, I've known Miata drivers who'd wished they sprung for extra power and more space. So, all things are relative. |
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I didn't say it applied to me, I was just pointing out that for most, the Z is either an extraneous purchase, or a stretch for daily usage. So, while this may not apply to the hardcore enthusiasts that make up most of this forum's population, most wives hold some veto power over a $30k+ purchase.
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Consumer Reports...key work is consumer so it's therefore highly subjective.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when George bought a LeBaron. Jerry told him but i thought Consumer Reports said the Volvo is the best buy. George replied "who is the consumer...i am the consumer" lol |
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You may be happy with your car, it's obvious there are owners who took the survey, who weren't happy and highly disappointed in the 370!
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Ah! But the LeBaron was previously owned by Jon Voight! |
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51% of the gencoupe fleet sees a mechanic in the first year for repairs.
12% of the Z fleet sees a mechanic for repairs. 9% of the miata fleet sees the mechanic for repairs. 57% of mustangs fleet sees the mechanic for respairs. These are true deltas numbers. How am I biased? Do I own true delta? I'm just saying, if owners themselves are reporting these numbers. Who's biased? Someone in this thread did mention that owners were encouraged to give poor reliability ratings due to lack of an oil cooler. That clears up the vast contradiction between true delta and CR. Sorry that thorough research showed the Z is way more reliable than reported. And I'm sorry that you are offended by me calling the gen trannies trash. That's what really motivated your post. I will rephrase and use the word subpar. But I know that will change in 2013. The Gen is still a great car. But honestly the trannies are a fail to me performance and reliability wise. It seems the only good tranny in the stable is the ZF 6at in the 3.8. Little features like DRM, dual overdrives, multiple gear ratios and lack of automatic upshift at 6000rpm make the nissan at a little more interesting than the hyundai 6at. I know its only temporary and I know hyundai is extremely progressive. But right now. A spade is a spade brother. To some of my Z bredrin. I know there are things you hate about the Z. But inconveniences and mechanical reliability fall into different categories. And I'm sorry red zed for finding so few flaws in the Z. I will learn to hate it more just for you.
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1. for a $30k + car WE shouldn't have paint issues
2. If cabin noise was a buying factor I would have looked at the G Coupe 3. 12000 miles in 1.5 years in the desert and no problems 4. I don't need a magazine to reaffirm my purchase of a Z. I only read how people mod them now.
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Start counting all the happy people and you'll get a different view of the car. All of these cars are great cars. All of these cars will have issues. It's the way it goes. Happy driving.
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![]() lol...This is old as shyt but i never caught this post. Can you believe I'm getting a fanboy psycho-analysis from the Vandergriff hyundai sales manager who i straight shytted on when he tried to sell me a gencoupe for msrp cuz its a high demand car? He was offended that i said, "the gencoupe wont be worth its msrp till it can lead in the sports car world. ITS NOT DOING THAT YET. He's mad about that opinion and nothing else" It couldnt win me over in the test drive. But i walked away with high respect for the car. And i have been one of nissan forums biggest gencoupe defenders. I just spewed facts that he dont like. Freakin ricer hyundai employees. Geez. |
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Besides the paint was a result of years of R&R to develop a paint that could reduce the total weight of a car by 1 lb.
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wasn't the Z rated one of the top picks for resale value? I wouldn't think that the car would be rated so poorly if that was the case.
Of course usually somewhere on there it says it's not always based on real numbers... you will see a lot of new cars out there that get good ratings and have hardly been out for more than a few months. It might only be based on a few reviews. Oh well... I love mine, all the other people who don't can suck it. |
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