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The Miata often wins the best buy in the sports car category on CR. And let's face it, it's by far the most practical and least expensive for the fun

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Old 06-28-2011, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Miata often wins the best buy in the sports car category on CR.

And let's face it, it's by far the most practical and least expensive for the fun it provides.

On the other hand, I've known Miata drivers who'd wished they sprung for extra power and more space. So, all things are relative.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i cannot see myself living with someone that controls my allowance. thus, CR is null in my books.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't say it applied to me, I was just pointing out that for most, the Z is either an extraneous purchase, or a stretch for daily usage. So, while this may not apply to the hardcore enthusiasts that make up most of this forum's population, most wives hold some veto power over a $30k+ purchase.
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Consumer Reports...key work is consumer so it's therefore highly subjective.

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when George bought a LeBaron. Jerry told him but i thought Consumer Reports said the Volvo is the best buy. George replied "who is the consumer...i am the consumer" lol
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I rather get my car info from these guys and by all accounts, 370z receive mad props..
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You may be happy with your car, it's obvious there are owners who took the survey, who weren't happy and highly disappointed in the 370!
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Consumer Reports...key work is consumer so it's therefore highly subjective.

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when George bought a LeBaron. Jerry told him but i thought Consumer Reports said the Volvo is the best buy. George replied "who is the consumer...i am the consumer" lol

Ah! But the LeBaron was previously owned by Jon Voight!
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I'm so sick of politics in publications that are supposedly supposed to be unbiased. Picked up this years buyers guide to look up info on some new vehicles. But being the enthusiast I am I had to check all the sports car stats. The Z was considered a bad buy on the strength of reliability.
Having owned several nissans and having been on several nissan forums for a number of years now. The Z and other nissan products seem to be reliable.

Now the best reliability sports cars were the GENESIS. Coupe and Mustang
Having been on the gen forums as well I know that they are swapping trannies, engines and whole cars on an above average scale. Especially on the 2.0 either tranny and the 3.8 manual are garbage.
The mustang is another one. I see people on the mustang forums constantly having issues.

So I decided to go to true delta. The site where owners go to report repairs.

The gencoupe had 51 out of 100 repairs.
The mustang had 57 out of 100 repairs.
The Z had 12 out of 100 repairs. Only beat by the miata which had 9 out of 100 repairs. They had a bonus score on the miata for over reliable industrial strength doors. Unfortunately, we had the regular door rating.

Anyway. The consumers are reporting way different from the so called "consumer reports".
Feels politically motivated to me. What you guys think?
U MAD? your whole post is biased
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U MAD? your whole post is biased
51% of the gencoupe fleet sees a mechanic in the first year for repairs.
12% of the Z fleet sees a mechanic for repairs.
9% of the miata fleet sees the mechanic for repairs.
57% of mustangs fleet sees the mechanic for respairs.

These are true deltas numbers. How am I biased? Do I own true delta? I'm just saying, if owners themselves are reporting these numbers. Who's biased? Someone in this thread did mention that owners were encouraged to give poor reliability ratings due to lack of an oil cooler. That clears up the vast contradiction between true delta and CR.

Sorry that thorough research showed the Z is way more reliable than reported. And I'm sorry that you are offended by me calling the gen trannies trash. That's what really motivated your post. I will rephrase and use the word subpar. But I know that will change in 2013. The Gen is still a great car. But honestly the trannies are a fail to me performance and reliability wise. It seems the only good tranny in the stable is the ZF 6at in the 3.8. Little features like DRM, dual overdrives, multiple gear ratios and lack of automatic upshift at 6000rpm make the nissan at a little more interesting than the hyundai 6at. I know its only temporary and I know hyundai is extremely progressive. But right now. A spade is a spade brother.

To some of my Z bredrin. I know there are things you hate about the Z. But inconveniences and mechanical reliability fall into different categories. And I'm sorry red zed for finding so few flaws in the Z. I will learn to hate it more just for you.

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1. for a $30k + car WE shouldn't have paint issues
2. If cabin noise was a buying factor I would have looked at the G Coupe
3. 12000 miles in 1.5 years in the desert and no problems
4. I don't need a magazine to reaffirm my purchase of a Z. I only read how people mod them now.
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1. for a $30k + car WE shouldn't have paint issues
2. If cabin noise was a buying factor I would have looked at the G Coupe
3. 12000 miles in 1.5 years in the desert and no problems
4. I don't need a magazine to reaffirm my purchase of a Z. I only read how people mod them now.
^this, form your own opinions and enjoy your cars. Any issues you see on forums, whether it's the Z, Mustang, or Genesis are usually from a select group of people who like to complain, it's their nature. (OP is the perfect example, he has a complex... it has been proven on the other forum..).

Start counting all the happy people and you'll get a different view of the car. All of these cars are great cars. All of these cars will have issues. It's the way it goes.

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^this, form your own opinions and enjoy your cars. Any issues you see on forums, whether it's the Z, Mustang, or Genesis are usually from a select group of people who like to complain, it's their nature. (OP is the perfect example, he has a complex... it has been proven on the other forum..).

Start counting all the happy people and you'll get a different view of the car. All of these cars are great cars. All of these cars will have issues. It's the way it goes.

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lol...This is old as shyt but i never caught this post. Can you believe I'm getting a fanboy psycho-analysis from the Vandergriff hyundai sales manager who i straight shytted on when he tried to sell me a gencoupe for msrp cuz its a high demand car? He was offended that i said, "the gencoupe wont be worth its msrp till it can lead in the sports car world. ITS NOT DOING THAT YET. He's mad about that opinion and nothing else" It couldnt win me over in the test drive. But i walked away with high respect for the car. And i have been one of nissan forums biggest gencoupe defenders. I just spewed facts that he dont like. Freakin ricer hyundai employees. Geez.
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Besides the paint was a result of years of R&R to develop a paint that could reduce the total weight of a car by 1 lb.
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wasn't the Z rated one of the top picks for resale value? I wouldn't think that the car would be rated so poorly if that was the case.

Of course usually somewhere on there it says it's not always based on real numbers... you will see a lot of new cars out there that get good ratings and have hardly been out for more than a few months. It might only be based on a few reviews.

Oh well... I love mine, all the other people who don't can suck it.
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