consumer reports is full of $hit

smokejr · 06-29-2011, 03:54 PM

Years ago I learned consumer reports should stick with vacuum cleaners,
there recommendation on Mtn. bikes was horrid, and proved to me they did
not even really test the products, imo.

Shamu · 11-06-2012, 08:21 PM

I would agree in general with CR. my car has had lots of little bugs, paint sucks, interior squeaks, etc.

I still love the car but nissan could improve overall quality.

hdskull · 06-28-2011, 03:18 AM

Those 12/100 people probably complained about the doors...

christian370z · 06-28-2011, 11:07 AM

Consumer Reports basically views every car from a viewpoint of people who are not enthusiasts and has no clue that different cars appeal to different audiences, that these different audiences have varying interests, and that maybe those factors should be considered when they review cars.

Bonzo · 06-28-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Consumer Reports basically views every car from a viewpoint of people who are not enthusiasts and has no clue that different cars appeal to different audiences, that these different audiences have varying interests, and that maybe those factors should be considered when they review cars.

I just love when they review sporty type cars and complain because the engine, exhaust, or tire noise is too loud.

And if the car isn't 100% practical they dog it all to hell. To them I say.....

SeattleLion · 06-30-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo

I just love when they review sporty type cars and complain because the engine, exhaust, or tire noise is too loud.

And if the car isn't 100% practical they dog it all to hell. To them I say.....

Actually, if you read the full review (which I have more than once), CR liked the 370 a lot. The track and road test were rave reviews. They loved the handling and power. The transmission got kudos. What the reviewer didn't like was the cabin noise. Is anyone shocked. By the way CR gave the Z's brakes highest marks unlike another publication (Road and Track).

The '09 got below average reliability marks. These grades come from Z owners who fill in the CR survey. No politics at all. The '09's appear to have more problem than the 2010. My 2010 has been excellent in all respects.

CR never mentioned oil temp. They don't publish exactly how they compute their scores, but I have come to trust their car reviews. The reliability for cars is also generally good. If you see the full report, you will see that in most respects the '09 scored well. I really wish they would retest the '10 and/or the '11. Nissan did some nice improvements over the '09.

Red__Zed · 06-30-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLion

Actually, if you read the full review (which I have more than once), CR liked the 370 a lot. The track and road test were rave reviews. They loved the handling and power. The transmission got kudos. What the reviewer didn't like was the cabin noise. Is anyone shocked. By the way CR gave the Z's brakes highest marks unlike another publication (Road and Track).

The '09 got below average reliability marks. These grades come from Z owners who fill in the CR survey. No politics at all. The '09's appear to have more problem than the 2010. My 2010 has been excellent in all respects.

CR never mentioned oil temp. They don't publish exactly how they compute their scores, but I have come to trust their car reviews. The reliability for cars is also generally good. If you see the full report, you will see that in most respects the '09 scored well. I really wish they would retest the '10 and/or the '11. Nissan did some nice improvements over the '09.

Rui Z · 06-30-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Heated mirrors FTW!

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-30-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLion

Actually, if you read the full review (which I have more than once), CR liked the 370 a lot. The track and road test were rave reviews. They loved the handling and power. The transmission got kudos. What the reviewer didn't like was the cabin noise. Is anyone shocked. By the way CR gave the Z's brakes highest marks unlike another publication (Road and Track).

The '09 got below average reliability marks. These grades come from Z owners who fill in the CR survey. No politics at all. The '09's appear to have more problem than the 2010. My 2010 has been excellent in all respects.

CR never mentioned oil temp. They don't publish exactly how they compute their scores, but I have come to trust their car reviews. The reliability for cars is also generally good. If you see the full report, you will see that in most respects the '09 scored well. I really wish they would retest the '10 and/or the '11. Nissan did some nice improvements over the '09.

I don't really care about what CR says concerning the review part. Its just saying our cars have a bad reliability rating when only 12 out of 100 cars see the repair shop. The review part is subjective. I don't pay much attention.

Red__Zed · 06-28-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Consumer Reports basically views every car from a viewpoint of people who are not enthusiasts and has no clue that different cars appeal to different audiences, that these different audiences have varying interests, and that maybe those factors should be considered when they review cars.

Enthusiasts go to other rags for opinions. That's not cr's market

Hambone1 · 06-28-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Enthusiasts go to other rags for opinions. That's not cr's market

True, unfortunately the wife who more often than not holds veto power reads CR for car buying advice, as opposed to said rags

shadoquad · 06-28-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone1

True, unfortunately the wife who more often than not holds veto power reads CR for car buying advice, as opposed to said rags

That varies from relationship to relationship.

Bonzo · 06-28-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone1

True, unfortunately the wife who more often than not holds veto power reads CR for car buying advice, as opposed to said rags

What's more important, the wife, or the car??????

Montez · 06-28-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone1

True, unfortunately the wife who more often than not holds veto power reads CR for car buying advice, as opposed to said rags

Lol, but there is lots of truth in that statement. Unfortunately C/R has earned a reputation with the "masses" and aloooot of them take what they report to heart and go by there advice, sad but true. Enthusiast as most of us are here take it with a grain of salt most of the time.

jpit · 06-28-2011, 11:40 AM

This is what Consumer Reports has to say about the 370Z - hardly a bad review:

"The new Z, the latest in a dynasty that started in the early Seventies, is a focused and capable sports car. The new car is shorter and lighter than the car it replaced and has much better interior fit and finish. The Z is quick, agile and enjoyable to drive. The V6 is muscular yet cultured and smooth. The shifter is a bit notchy but crisp and positive in feel. Handling is very agile with direct steering and lots of cornering grip."

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smokejr Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 64 Drives: mb mt Rep Power: 16	Years ago I learned consumer reports should stick with vacuum cleaners, there recommendation on Mtn. bikes was horrid, and proved to me they did not even really test the products, imo.

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jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 18	This is what Consumer Reports has to say about the 370Z - hardly a bad review: "The new Z, the latest in a dynasty that started in the early Seventies, is a focused and capable sports car. The new car is shorter and lighter than the car it replaced and has much better interior fit and finish. The Z is quick, agile and enjoyable to drive. The V6 is muscular yet cultured and smooth. The shifter is a bit notchy but crisp and positive in feel. Handling is very agile with direct steering and lots of cornering grip."