consumer reports is full of $hit

NXXT · 06-28-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm so sick of politics in publications that are supposedly supposed to be unbiased. Picked up this years buyers guide to look up info on some new vehicles. But being the enthusiast I am I had to check all the sports car stats. The Z was considered a bad buy on the strength of reliability.
Having owned several nissans and having been on several nissan forums for a number of years now. The Z and other nissan products seem to be reliable.

Now the best reliability sports cars were the GENESIS. Coupe and Mustang
Having been on the gen forums as well I know that they are swapping trannies, engines and whole cars on an above average scale. Especially on the 2.0 either tranny and the 3.8 manual are garbage.
The mustang is another one. I see people on the mustang forums constantly having issues.

So I decided to go to true delta. The site where owners go to report repairs.

The gencoupe had 51 out of 100 repairs.
The mustang had 57 out of 100 repairs.
The Z had 12 out of 100 repairs. Only beat by the miata which had 9 out of 100 repairs. They had a bonus score on the miata for over reliable industrial strength doors. Unfortunately, we had the regular door rating.

Anyway. The consumers are reporting way different from the so called "consumer reports".
Feels politically motivated to me. What you guys think?

U MAD? your whole post is biased

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-30-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NXXT

U MAD? your whole post is biased

51% of the gencoupe fleet sees a mechanic in the first year for repairs.
12% of the Z fleet sees a mechanic for repairs.
9% of the miata fleet sees the mechanic for repairs.
57% of mustangs fleet sees the mechanic for respairs.

These are true deltas numbers. How am I biased? Do I own true delta? I'm just saying, if owners themselves are reporting these numbers. Who's biased? Someone in this thread did mention that owners were encouraged to give poor reliability ratings due to lack of an oil cooler. That clears up the vast contradiction between true delta and CR.

Sorry that thorough research showed the Z is way more reliable than reported. And I'm sorry that you are offended by me calling the gen trannies trash. That's what really motivated your post. I will rephrase and use the word subpar. But I know that will change in 2013. The Gen is still a great car. But honestly the trannies are a fail to me performance and reliability wise. It seems the only good tranny in the stable is the ZF 6at in the 3.8. Little features like DRM, dual overdrives, multiple gear ratios and lack of automatic upshift at 6000rpm make the nissan at a little more interesting than the hyundai 6at. I know its only temporary and I know hyundai is extremely progressive. But right now. A spade is a spade brother.

To some of my Z bredrin. I know there are things you hate about the Z. But inconveniences and mechanical reliability fall into different categories. And I'm sorry red zed for finding so few flaws in the Z. I will learn to hate it more just for you.

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