Son's newly bought 09 370Z 6MT

NYBladeZ · 06-30-2011, 12:02 PM

Thumbs up to a cool Dad, way to many haters on here but its like that on all forums. Personally I would hate the no modding rule since the Z is a tuners car.

Brutal 370Z · 06-30-2011, 12:29 PM

cool dad for sure. my dad bought me a Z when i was 16 too.

MacCool · 06-30-2011, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname

why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

christian370z · 06-30-2011, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacCool

It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

FromG2Z · 06-30-2011, 04:03 PM

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

RDGR12 · 06-30-2011, 04:46 PM

@RCK - If you can afford to buy the warranty, I don't see any reason for not getting one. Especially when modifying the Z is not in the picture.

+1 on enrolling him to driving school.

I'm sure you're raised your son well and have adopted your teachings for him to deserve such a nice gift!

MacCool · 06-30-2011, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

So...it's not fair for insurance companies to charge higher premiums for unmarried male drivers age 16-23? Their actuarial data is wrong?

dpirch531 · 06-30-2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

Couldn't of said it any better ^. Agree 100%

Rooster89 · 06-30-2011, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

PapoZalsa · 06-30-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Superb driver?....outstanding peripheral vision?... Wow. I really hope your just trolling, because there is no such thing as a responsible 18 year old when you put him behind the wheel of sports car. It's one thing when he's driving with his Mom holding his hand, another when he's alone or with a girl/guy.

Superb driver?.... I'm in my 40s, driven in the Autobahn, own over 50 cars and don't consider myself a superb driver.

outstanding peripheral vision?...Are u an Optometry?

Sorry but those are strong statements!

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

Check the stats real carefull....you will know when you have teen drivers in your house and your insurance goes off the roof.

whoady4shoady · 07-03-2011, 04:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKp5a...rec_grec_index

TongMan · 07-03-2011, 09:22 PM

I totally agree with FromG2Z. Working hard for something is so much rewarding than someone handing over a 40 grand car to a teen. Parents in modern days love to spoil their kids.

Parents nowadays forget to re-enforce the belief that one should be hard working and earn what they have.

PapoZalsa · 07-03-2011, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan

I totally agree with FromG2Z. Working hard for something is so much rewarding than someone handing over a 40 grand car to a teen. Parents in modern days love to spoil their kids.

Parents nowadays forget to re-enforce the belief that one should be hard working and earn what they have.

There are born with a Silver Spoon up thier a$$ and will never appreciate a car because they never have to sacrifice themself for what they want.

butdamnbrian · 07-03-2011, 10:09 PM

clueless dad shouldnt be shocked at the negative responses he gets on the forum, which is populated by hardworking dedicated enthusiasts who work hard for their z's and live for the hobby. he comes on here posting about how he just bought his teenage kid the car we all worked our asses off for, and defends it by saying his kid is responsible. how obnoxious is that?

chuckd05 · 07-03-2011, 11:34 PM

If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

06-30-2011, 12:02 PM	#61 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	Thumbs up to a cool Dad, way to many haters on here but its like that on all forums. Personally I would hate the no modding rule since the Z is a tuners car. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

06-30-2011, 12:29 PM	#62 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 13	cool dad for sure. my dad bought me a Z when i was 16 too. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

06-30-2011, 04:03 PM	#65 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 17	Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox. I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great. What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts. I vowed then and there that I would never be like that. To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me. As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started. IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for. Ok, I'm off my soapbox now. __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra Last edited by FromG2Z; 06-30-2011 at 04:05 PM.

07-03-2011, 11:34 PM	#75 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father. Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved. The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

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