2012 Official LineUp Changes

halogodx

Because there's a lot more camero's out there than the Z. Even with less power, its unique. Every time i've driven with people, if they see mustangs or camero's, i don't see any special reactions. But, every time they see a 370z. They're always in awe.

b1adesofcha0s

I did better than two Camaro SS's at the drag strip 2 days ago

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AppleZ

Why does eveyome compare just HP? My Z is designed better, looks better, handles better...I can go on for a while. American Car manufacturers think straight line. Japan and Europe think, "How will this drive on a track?"

On a side note, the corvette is one of the very few if not only American sports car I'd buy.

Endgame

Montez, I am surprised you got looks in Phx with a Camaro. They are a dime a dozen and I seem more of them than Civics these days in Phx.

Even today I would take the Z over a 5.0 or Maro. Yes, the Stang's handling has improved, but still not Z level. The Z look better stock and modded (subjective). I just prefer Japanese sports cars (for example: if I was told I could get ANY car $ not an option, it would be the R34 Skyline GTR Nismo Z Tune). And, it is not all about going fast, hanging your rear end out, or doing donuts. The Z is a drivers car that I have much fun in. To be honest, I do not have as much fun in my buddies' Z06 than I do my Z.

These are all subjective, and to each his own. That said, I do give thumbs up to 5.0 owners; they are almost as rare as 370s in Phx.

NissanGuy23

I totally disagree, if your looking for HP and not much else - by all means get a muscle car and drag race high schoolers in mustangs all day long.

The Z is not about raw torque and HP. Nissan is a Japanese company, and they build Japanese cars - not american cars. American cars have their own attitude and purpose, and Japanese cars have theirs. Nissan wont bump the Hp without the appropite chassis, brake, suspention changes. I dont think the Z needs any more power.

bluelion

weird the Z got no exterior changes, but yet the maxima is supposed to get a different grill, headlights, taillights, and wheels......

Cmike2780

I think they should have pushed the hp output a bit. I mean, they managed to squeeze out a few more ponies for the Nismo with some tuning and exhaust after all. As far as exterior changes, I really don't see a whole lot I would change or would want to change, so I really don't see a point. Although, I do understand why others would be expecting one by now. I think Nissan is taking the corvette style refresh cycle. Which means making the Z a low volume 10 year cycle model, wether they like it or not. If they want to keep their "sporty" image, the Z and GT-R namesake won't be disappearing anytime soon.

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happytheman

How much improvement do you all think would be realized with DI, I wonder?

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Red__Zed

It is a good looking car...I think this forum is the only place that doesn't recognize that.
Not my style personally, but I still notice them catching my eye.


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tanamerra

Kind of surprised Nissan did not at least offer an oil cooler as a factory installed option.

Mike

crashing is like FL 4 Motion said, mostly old men drive vettes and mostly younger drivers drive Zs. I find myself stuck in between and getting closer to the vette demographic, yet still feeling like a younger guy in my mind. My aches and pains every morning when I get out of bed tell me otherwise though.

Also, my main business is caliper exchange powdercoating, both with Vettes and Zs. Vette people return the calipers in days, Z people sometimes take months.

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RunNgun

Any word on factory equipped sound deadening for the 2012 model? I thought I read somewhere that Nissan was considering the road noise issue.

And for the record, all this talk of oil coolers means the 2012 WILL HAVE one installed as part of the base model correct? Or is it still just an addon like it always was?

shadoquad

I haven't heard about sound deadening, but that could just be me.

As for the oil cooler, I believe this means 2012 models will be equipped, but I haven't seen whether it's all trim levels or just relegated to sport pkg. I would assume all models, though.

ImportConvert

Sound deadening is likely a "silent change", if it was changed. You won't hear about it, it will just happen.

Mike

don't crap on ImportConvert. I have tracked both, a lot. The Z is a hell of lot more squirrely than the vette. Yes, Randy Pobst is a great driver, and he has driven one or two of my friends' Porsches and commented on them at track days. But, has he driven a Z?

I don't discount any pro driver ever. Shields Bergstrom took me out for a 20 minute session in my C6 at VIR and while he went about 30 mph faster than me everywhere, he inspired me to pick up 10 on my own.

Just saying, the vette is a lot more stable than the Z. That doesnt mean its more fun or quicker. I get almost the same lap times as I did when I had 540 rwhp in my supercharged C6.

Also not saying the C6 is a bad car, the Z just communicates with me a lot better.

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