blacklist hunter,makes predictions for 2012 Z...

UNKNOWN_370

http://www.blacklisthunter.com/3638/...70z-preview-2/

According to this magazine, the updates will be an updated grille and sideskirts for the exterior and they claim most updates will be in the interior. I would hope so because we are probably the only car over 20k without bluetooth/usb and other little conveniences being standard. Not that I personally bought the Z for gadgets, but on a standpoint much larger than myself. People looking for a sports car or any car base a cars cool factor on gadgets and gizmos. Mustang has that sync, camaros have on star. They all have bluetooth. They all can get upgraded stereos without buying $4000 in unnecessary leather pkgs.
Z loses a lot of buyers due to the too little/too much factor. In other words. Not many want to pay over 40k for this car. But want a little more that's in the base package. When you compare to the GT cars, they offer more for the dollar as far as gadgetry and music for less money. The best examples are mustang and gencoupe.

What I found most interesting, this article stated that nissan may lower its msrp to compete with the likes of mustang and other sports cars. I can definately see that as well. With the rise in competition. The Z has to offer more. 40k is not cheap. Car companies are going back to the basics and offering more for less. Nissan must adapt as well. They make the best sports car for the money but some key ingredients can definately make it an even better buy.

What you guys think?

Econ

i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car...

you can get them new with options for ~32

I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer

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UNKNOWN_370

Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

Econ

lol my favorite part of your inchoherent response was ricey shark faced grille

boy racer has nothing to do with where the cars are made. If the price drops too low, we'll get a bunch of kids parents buyihng the cars for them and ricing them out left and right. I personally dont believe there will be a price drop of any measure, but just playing devils advocate if there was (which there wont be).

and i got a New touring for 26K. (24 miles). dealers will go low, you just need to work them right

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Hambone1

Unknown, I know you're on pain meds dude, so I'll be gentle, but my insurance went DOWN from an Audi S4 to the Z. I also think the boy racer stigma has more to do with the amount of cars modded in that particular style, as well as being performance model variants of commuter or econo cars. The current Z has no downmarket variant, it is essentially an automotive one-off, the closest thing to it in house being the G37. The Evo has it roots in the humble Lancer, STi same story. I could on and on with examples, but I think that has far more to do with the boy racer stigma than it's build location. Not to mention cars like the Dodge SRT4, which are about as heavy on boy racer/ricer image as you can get, despite being American.

Jeffblue

there are like 5 different trim levels of corvettes with different power plants. They have something for everyone. the Z is more or less the same car in any trim.

tsolin01

Where are you getting your sales numbers from? 60k vette sales? really? Do those include used or new model sales?

Production numbers overall have been dropping for the Z since 2003. Oh yea I'm sure Nissan would love to sell 25k to 30k units a year, which by the way they haven't even produced more than 25k units since 2005. I'm talking US sales production btw.

What they could maybe do is spend a little more on Z advertising. I barely see any commercials at all.

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Pharmacist

If people want fancy gadgets that weigh down the car, BUY A CADILLAC!!!! Nissan should not lower the price or add more gadgets. What they should do is add more power to the engine, add an oil cooler, upgrade the brake pads to more aggressive set up, stiffen the suspension a bit, have a better exhaust, and better more sticky tires. That should help the z catch up to the mustang gt, cayman s, and audi tt rs

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UNKNOWN_370

I agree with pharmacist to a point. But on econ's response. It seems like young people can afford our cars just fine. I see young kids in our cars, in bimmers and lexus is300's that are new. I see them in evo's and wrx sti that cost the same as our car.
Incoherent. Well I'm on pain meds... lol. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I love the Z, but we aren't driving Aston Martins. Our cars are. 31k to 47k cars depending on coupe/vert and packages. Many wealthy parents seem to find that to be an acceptable price range to buy cars for there kids as well as young 20 somethings out of college to buy there rides. I don't see how a possible $1,000 drop will change anything???

Econ

true, however a 1,000 price drop will not cause nissan to sell more which would be their primary goal in a price drop...

i dont think people turned their back on buying a Z b/c the msrp was $1k too much.

anyway, interested to see what nissan has in store...

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kenchan

lowering the price is not really going to help sales imho.

DJ-of-E

Hopefully they finally listened and add that $700 oil cooler.

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tsolin01

I doubt they'd lower the price with all the costs going up and Japans economy pretty much taking a nose dive after the earthquake/tsunami. A 2 seater sports car is a hard sell to most people, so in that respect you can't compare it to those GT cars.

Keeping the price the same and bumping up performance I think will boost sales. The current packages and trims I think are pretty on point with potential buyers. What they should do is make the Nismo version in a class of it's own with maybe a different engine all together or better yet boosted from the factory.

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UNKNOWN_370

But they can compare to miata sales, corvette sales and bimmer sales. Vettes sell over 60,000 units annually and miatas sell over 20,000 annually. I'm sure nissan wants to sell at least 25k units a year. They steadily sold the 350z between 25k and 30k units a year.

I would like to see a more interesting color pallette, better standard stereo. Bose should be standard and nav bose should be "the" option. I would like to see standard bluetooth and usb and 35 extra lbs taken off the car. Maybe a new sport wheel designwith upgrades to the grille and skirts to break the monotoney. Lastly, the nismo tune for the sport pkg and add even more power to the nismo. Like 370hp @8000rpm

One other thing. I had to jump on this to add... OIL COOLER. That would rock.

homeryansta

does this mean I should wait for the 2012 model? I was really thinking about picking up a Z this summer.

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