blacklist hunter,makes predictions for 2012 Z...

Econ · 05-24-2011, 09:43 AM

i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car...

you can get them new with options for ~32

I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-24-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Econ

i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car...

you can get them new with options for ~32

I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer

Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

Econ · 05-24-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

lol my favorite part of your inchoherent response was ricey shark faced grille

boy racer has nothing to do with where the cars are made. If the price drops too low, we'll get a bunch of kids parents buyihng the cars for them and ricing them out left and right. I personally dont believe there will be a price drop of any measure, but just playing devils advocate if there was (which there wont be).

and i got a New touring for 26K. (24 miles). dealers will go low, you just need to work them right

Hambone1 · 05-24-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

Unknown, I know you're on pain meds dude, so I'll be gentle, but my insurance went DOWN from an Audi S4 to the Z. I also think the boy racer stigma has more to do with the amount of cars modded in that particular style, as well as being performance model variants of commuter or econo cars. The current Z has no downmarket variant, it is essentially an automotive one-off, the closest thing to it in house being the G37. The Evo has it roots in the humble Lancer, STi same story. I could on and on with examples, but I think that has far more to do with the boy racer stigma than it's build location. Not to mention cars like the Dodge SRT4, which are about as heavy on boy racer/ricer image as you can get, despite being American.

Jeffblue · 05-24-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But they can compare to miata sales, corvette sales and bimmer sales. Vettes sell over 60,000 units annually and miatas sell over 20,000 annually. I'm sure nissan wants to sell at least 25k units a year. They steadily sold the 350z between 25k and 30k units a year.

there are like 5 different trim levels of corvettes with different power plants. They have something for everyone. the Z is more or less the same car in any trim.

tsolin01 · 05-24-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But they can compare to miata sales, corvette sales and bimmer sales. Vettes sell over 60,000 units annually and miatas sell over 20,000 annually. I'm sure nissan wants to sell at least 25k units a year. They steadily sold the 350z between 25k and 30k units a year.

I would like to see a more interesting color pallette, better standard stereo. Bose should be standard and nav bose should be "the" option. I would like to see standard bluetooth and usb and 35 extra lbs taken off the car. Maybe a new sport wheel designwith upgrades to the grille and skirts to break the monotoney. Lastly, the nismo tune for the sport pkg and add even more power to the nismo. Like 370hp @8000rpm

One other thing. I had to jump on this to add... OIL COOLER. That would rock.

Where are you getting your sales numbers from? 60k vette sales? really? Do those include used or new model sales?

Production numbers overall have been dropping for the Z since 2003. Oh yea I'm sure Nissan would love to sell 25k to 30k units a year, which by the way they haven't even produced more than 25k units since 2005. I'm talking US sales production btw.

What they could maybe do is spend a little more on Z advertising. I barely see any commercials at all.

Hambone1 · 05-24-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tsolin01

Where are you getting your sales numbers from? 60k vette sales? really? Do those include used or new model sales?

Production numbers overall have been dropping for the Z since 2003. Oh yea I'm sure Nissan would love to sell 25k to 30k units a year, which by the way they haven't even produced more than 25k units since 2005. I'm talking US sales production btw.

What they could maybe do is spend a little more on Z advertising. I barely see any commercials at all.

350Z U.S. Sales, copied from Wikipedia. I'm not claiming these numbers as the gospel, just a baseline
Year U.S. Sales
2002 13,253
2003 36,728
2004 30,690
2005 27,278
2006 24,635
2007 18,957
2008 10,337

True on the advertising. Aside from the one for the Maxima, I haven't seen anything even showing the Z. Even a few months ago, with the big ad campaign for various sales they had, they didn't even show a Z amongst the other offerings

tsolin01 · 05-24-2011, 03:47 PM

Here's some production numbers from My350

2003..... 36,728
2004..... 30,690
2005..... 27,278
2006..... 24,635
2007..... 18,957
2008..... 10,337
2009..... 13,117
2010..... 10,215
2011..... 1,138 (through Feb)

Vette production from Corvette Action Center:

2003..... 35,469
2004..... 34,064
2005..... 37,372
2006..... 34,021
2007..... 40,561
2008..... 35,310
2009..... 16,959
2010..... 12,194

I don't know the accuracy of these numbers but it's clear production for all sports cars has been in decline. Adding a few interior bits isn't going to suddenly increase new Z sales...

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Econ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 2,546 Drives: Fiat? Rep Power: 21	i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car... you can get them new with options for ~32 I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer __________________ 2014 Triumph Thruxton 900 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth 2009 Nissan 370z

05-24-2011, 03:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
tsolin01 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 657 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 18	Here's some production numbers from My350 2003..... 36,728 2004..... 30,690 2005..... 27,278 2006..... 24,635 2007..... 18,957 2008..... 10,337 2009..... 13,117 2010..... 10,215 2011..... 1,138 (through Feb) Vette production from Corvette Action Center: 2003..... 35,469 2004..... 34,064 2005..... 37,372 2006..... 34,021 2007..... 40,561 2008..... 35,310 2009..... 16,959 2010..... 12,194 I don't know the accuracy of these numbers but it's clear production for all sports cars has been in decline. Adding a few interior bits isn't going to suddenly increase new Z sales... __________________ SOLD 12/30/2011 2010 370Z Coupe Monterey Blue 6MT/Touring/Sport/Nav F.I. CBE CF w/ 12" Res \| V1 \| SecondSkin \| Stillen G3 \| EVO-R CF B-Pillars \| Volk GT-S Ti Gunmetal 19x9.5 +30 F, 19x10.5 +8 R \| Swift Spec-R Springs

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