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Originally Posted by ImportConvert -220* oil temps are just fine.. maybe, but installing an oil cooler to keep temps at 200 is fine also Originally Posted by ImportConvert --This is

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Old 04-28-2011, 10:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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-220* oil temps are just fine..
maybe, but installing an oil cooler to keep temps at 200 is fine also

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--This is a discussion about engines and oil and manufacturer names are just incidental. ..
no, its not incedental, you placed GM into this thread as if no one should use oil coolers b/c of GMs crap.

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--Plate style coolers tend to over-cool the oil. Further, unless you install a bypass for them, they aren't the safest setup. You can of course install a thermostat or buy a plate cooler with a thermostat in it, but the point remains that you are doing this because in your mind 220* oil temps are too hot. ..
^ NOW THAT ^ would be a great post that brings a good technical point to the thread. And yet it had nothing to do with Corvette ********.

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---Check your "IMO" at the door IMO is worthless in a technical thread. For once try to support your emotionally charged BS with fact instead of Fanboi nonsense.
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maybe, but installing an oil cooler to keep temps at 200 is fine also



no, its not incedental, you placed GM into this thread as if no one should use oil coolers b/c of GMs crap.



^ NOW THAT ^ would be a great post that brings a good technical point to the thread. And yet it had nothing to do with Corvette ********.



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Well noone gives a damn that Nissan refuses to put a cooler in the car. I figured if I introduced the fact that another company actually spent R&D money to REMOVE one half a decade into the production cycle, maybe people would take note. Nah. People still want to buy a damn oil-cooler when the needle crests 220*.

You can turn this into a brand-war all you want. I really don't care. I provided you with a real-world example of a manufacturer changing production 5-years in, and spending money to do it. You want to make it a pissing contest? Have at it. Everyone else can take the point as it was meant.

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If I do not intend on bringing my 370z to the track should I still invest in an oil cooler?

I intend on buying headers, high flow cats , intake, cat back and a tune for the car over the next year. SHould I budget an oil cooler too?

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THAT is who my post was aimed at. The OP.

If you track your Z, by all means, I think it should have an oil-cooler. One with a bypass and thermostat.

If you don't track it, and aren't hitting limp mode, don't get one.

My posts in this thread have been about people who want an oil-cooler "just because they think...". Not people who actually tap the limp-mode.

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As to GM and their engineers, there is a reason Ferrari and a lot of others pay GM royalties for the technologies they have developed. Say whatever you want, but Nissan had to rent their engine technology from Ford. Ferrari gets their active suspension from GM, and lots of others barrow from elsewhere.

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Well noone gives a damn that Nissan refuses to put a cooler in the car. I figured if I introduced the fact that another company actually spent R&D money to REMOVE one half a decade into the production cycle, maybe people would take note. Nah. People still want to buy a damn oil-cooler when the needle crests 220*..
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Well noone gives a damn that Nissan refuses to put a cooler in the car. I figured if I introduced the fact that another company actually spent R&D money to REMOVE one half a decade into the production cycle, maybe people would take note. Nah. People still want to buy a damn oil-cooler when the needle crests 220*.

You can turn this into a brand-war all you want. I really don't care. I provided you with a real-world example of a manufacturer changing production 5-years in, and spending money to do it. You want to make it a pissing contest? Have at it. Everyone else can take the point as it was meant.



THAT is who my post was aimed at. The OP.

If you track your Z, by all means, I think it should have an oil-cooler. One with a bypass and thermostat.

If you don't track it, and aren't hitting limp mode, don't get one.

My posts in this thread have been about people who want an oil-cooler "just because they think...". Not people who actually tap the limp-mode.

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As to GM and their engineers, there is a reason Ferrari and a lot of others pay GM royalties for the technologies they have developed. Say whatever you want, but Nissan had to rent their engine technology from Ford. Ferrari gets their active suspension from GM, and lots of others barrow from elsewhere.
yes in a world like we have today, companies always borrow things from others because its cheaper, not because its the best solution.
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yes in a world like we have today, companies always borrow things from others because its cheaper, not because its the best solution.
actually im sure what he is referring to is the GTR cylinder wall tech that someone developed at Ford, which is really bad ***
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yes, and MRC that everyone is borrowing from GM because they can't beat it.
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actually im sure what he is referring to is the GTR cylinder wall tech that someone developed at Ford, which is really bad ***
not doubting good things come from it. But when you compare what ford has (in your reference), which they found to work for what they wanted, versus spending time/money developing something better... that perhaps might have given the GTR a better edge? hypothetically there are thousands if not millions of scenario's to wonder about

Convenience is the thing though and big companies will always look after their pocket books first especially if they know the consumers will simply just sit back and take it.

Either way this is running very off topic.

If OP wants peace of mind, get a 19 or 25 row with a thermostatic plate. Even if you dont track it but plan to "enjoy" the car. Some people in our mountain run in 68-72 degree weather were hitting 260+. At the same time, a NISMO that tracked their car without the oil cooler didnt hit limp mode on a very hot track day. Every car, every day, every location is different and only you can judge what will be best for your situations, unless one of us is your twin and follows you around everyday
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