Nissan Ester Oil

370Zsteve · 01-01-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

When somebody knows for sure what oil is in the Z from the factory LMK, ok.

Lug · 01-11-2010, 12:08 PM

I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW!

....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals

semtex · 01-11-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW!

....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals

+rep for hilarity.

IDZRVIT · 01-11-2010, 12:43 PM

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I've seen Motul vs. Amsoil comparisons in the past where factory crosshatch marks were all worn out using Motul and were still like new with the Amsoil.

Also with ASTM testing of Red Line & Mobil 1, both of these had much higher wear scars than with Amsoil.

Homeslice,
Based on what you've read in the comparison tests and all things being equal on how these engines were operated and also based on your acute knowledge of oil comparisons, how many more miles will my engine last if I switch to Amsoil vice M1 which I'm using now? Well....how many miles will my engine last, period, using Amsoil? I'm happy if you can get within a range of +/- 10000 miles for Amsoil. Ah heck, please tell us all how long our engines will last with each type of oil in your analysis of comparison testing please. Thanks!!!

homeslice · 01-11-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Homeslice,
Based on what you've read in the comparison tests and all things being equal on how these engines were operated and also based on your acute knowledge of oil comparisons, how many more miles will my engine last if I switch to Amsoil vice M1 which I'm using now? Well....how many miles will my engine last, period, using Amsoil? I'm happy if you can get within a range of +/- 10000 miles for Amsoil. Ah heck, please tell us all how long our engines will last with each type of oil in your analysis of comparison testing please. Thanks!!!

I read about a van going 930,000 miles on the same engine and tranny doing the 25,000 mile oil change thing. They tore down the engine and inspected it. It only had less than 1% wear from the factory specs in all that time. Not to forget, he had a ton of idle time during that whole time. If an oil is THAT GOOD to keep some delivery van going that long, I don't think I'd want to use anything else.

Not everybody beats on their cars. Most of my friends drive normal. I still hit 6,000+ RPM's on a regular basis and have no problems and no oil consumption and I'm saving money (which you all seem to complain about.)

I have just talked to too many people who have switched from all of the oils mentioned here to Amsoil and all of them never switched back.

The only people I see here complaining about Amsoil are the same people who have never even used it at all or for any length of time.

This oil saved me an engine rebuild in one of my previous cars, so I have to talk about it. If you don't want to use it, then don't. You're simply throwing away money on anything else. It's your money. Waste it how you want. My money comes hard, so I have to look for anything that will save me money. If my engine or tranny were to take a dump now, I'd be walkin'.

370Zsteve · 01-11-2010, 04:33 PM

So...you're saying I can drive my Z for 930 thousand miles while only replacing Amsoil every 25 thousand miles? Nice.

NIZMOZ · 01-12-2010, 07:48 AM

I was also a M1 person back in the days as well. I used it on everything. But when I noticed they changed the formula and my cars started to have start up noises, I switched to Amsoil and loved Amsoil. I was with them for years, till prices started to go up, and IMHO, wasn't worth the extra cost even though Amsoil was better than M1.

So I switched back to Penzoil Platinum and have been pleased. PP is better than M1 in their formulation and tests and it has made the car run quieter than any oil I have used. I recommend it over M1 no doubt, and if you don't want to purchase Amsoil, get PP which IMHO is good enough!

homeslice · 01-13-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I was also a M1 person back in the days as well. I used it on everything. But when I noticed they changed the formula and my cars started to have start up noises, I switched to Amsoil and loved Amsoil. I was with them for years, till prices started to go up, and IMHO, wasn't worth the extra cost even though Amsoil was better than M1.

So I switched back to Penzoil Platinum and have been pleased. PP is better than M1 in their formulation and tests and it has made the car run quieter than any oil I have used. I recommend it over M1 no doubt, and if you don't want to purchase Amsoil, get PP which IMHO is good enough!

If you're whining about the price of an oil, then why did you even buy a Z in the first place? Why didn't you just buy a car for 1/2 the price and just be happy with that?

I barely spend $59/yr on oil changes with Amsoil. HOW IS THIS EXPENSIVE?! ARE YOU HIGH?!

Saying that Amsoil is expensive and then driving around in a $40,000+ car is such an OXYMORON if I have ever seen one.

$59 is what it costs me for 5 quarts and 1 filter and I am DONE for the entire year with Amsoil.

Add up what you're wasting on Mobil 1, RP or RL all year and I can bet you it's a hell of a lot more than $59 bucks.

I use 5 quarts of the 5W30 and an EAO12 oil filter on my '05 350Z. $59 includes tax and shipping... that's OUT THE DOOR delivered to my porch.

homeslice · 01-13-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

So...you're saying I can drive my Z for 930 thousand miles while only replacing Amsoil every 25 thousand miles? Nice.

That's exactly what I am saying.

I've never seen SO MANY SHEEP on here in my life. Why don't all of you end your signatures in, "Baaaaah!!!"

I've never seen so many people on here so into themselves like they think they know it all. You people have SO MUCH TO LEARN. You think Nissan is there to tell you how to keep your vehicle running forever? You guys obviously don't know anything about business. Nissan is the LAST people you should be trusting. They only care about having your car hit 100,000 miles. After that, it's done and they want you to buy another one. If everybody used Amsoil and kept their cars 500,000 miles, Nissan would go out of business, hence the reason for telling you to use inferior oils to help the drivetrain wear out.

It's like no matter what I say, you guys all want some kind of excuse to be masochists. Why you do you all find pleasure in pain? You all need to go to the funny farm with this attitude.

WICKED_GRIN · 01-11-2010, 05:24 PM

Sounds like somebody likes Amsoil

Modshack · 01-12-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

Sounds like somebody likes Amsoil

It's like a religion...

Rhymes with Amway.....

370Zsteve · 01-12-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

It's like a religion...

Rhymes with Amway.....

Ya, judging from the promos, this is an MLM pyramid.

semtex · 01-12-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by homeslice

The only people I see here complaining about Amsoil are the same people who have never even used it at all or for any length of time.

I don't recall seeing anyone actually complain about Amsoil on this forum. Can you provide an example or two?

jpit · 01-11-2010, 01:11 PM

Road & Track is switching from Nissan Ester to a cheaper oil in their long term test car.
They wanted to use a less expensive oil to determine if there was a perceptible difference in engine noise.

IDZRVIT · 01-11-2010, 05:13 PM

I don't keep vehicles long enough to put on a million miles. In fact, up here they would probably rust out long before that. Anyway, my point is just that. Most people do not keep vehicles that long to get those high miles. Any API certified oil will adequately lubricate most engines under normal driving conditions. So whether you use Amsoil, M1 or other synthetics or even dino oil, it really doesn't matter what comparisons are made. Although I don't have any hard facts I will state that if an engine fails due to the fault of the oil, it's probably due to improper maintenance eg going well beyond recommended mileage per oil change/filter, never checking oil level, adding additives not recommended by car manufacturer, over revving, etc. I for one believe in following the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule. Knock on wood, I have yet to lose an engine due to the use of any brand of dino or synthetic oil used and I've been doing maintenace for near 40 years. Dino is cheaper than Amsoil or any other synthetic, so why should anyone use it if they will still get well over 100000 miles on their car using just the dino oil? Hype from oil companies is a reasonable assumption why people make their choices for the various synthetics and Amsoil hype from you counts just as much. Today, I use M1 in my Z and my '03 Sportrac. My '02 Spectra still gets the dino. My two Harley's get M1 and my '76 vette gets dino. So why do I not just use the dino to save money? Hype! Well, synthetic does give that extra edge when oil temperatures rise uncomfortably high.

01-11-2010, 12:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW! ....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

01-11-2010, 04:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	So...you're saying I can drive my Z for 930 thousand miles while only replacing Amsoil every 25 thousand miles? Nice. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

01-12-2010, 07:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	I was also a M1 person back in the days as well. I used it on everything. But when I noticed they changed the formula and my cars started to have start up noises, I switched to Amsoil and loved Amsoil. I was with them for years, till prices started to go up, and IMHO, wasn't worth the extra cost even though Amsoil was better than M1. So I switched back to Penzoil Platinum and have been pleased. PP is better than M1 in their formulation and tests and it has made the car run quieter than any oil I have used. I recommend it over M1 no doubt, and if you don't want to purchase Amsoil, get PP which IMHO is good enough! __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

01-11-2010, 05:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 28	I don't keep vehicles long enough to put on a million miles. In fact, up here they would probably rust out long before that. Anyway, my point is just that. Most people do not keep vehicles that long to get those high miles. Any API certified oil will adequately lubricate most engines under normal driving conditions. So whether you use Amsoil, M1 or other synthetics or even dino oil, it really doesn't matter what comparisons are made. Although I don't have any hard facts I will state that if an engine fails due to the fault of the oil, it's probably due to improper maintenance eg going well beyond recommended mileage per oil change/filter, never checking oil level, adding additives not recommended by car manufacturer, over revving, etc. I for one believe in following the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule. Knock on wood, I have yet to lose an engine due to the use of any brand of dino or synthetic oil used and I've been doing maintenace for near 40 years. Dino is cheaper than Amsoil or any other synthetic, so why should anyone use it if they will still get well over 100000 miles on their car using just the dino oil? Hype from oil companies is a reasonable assumption why people make their choices for the various synthetics and Amsoil hype from you counts just as much. Today, I use M1 in my Z and my '03 Sportrac. My '02 Spectra still gets the dino. My two Harley's get M1 and my '76 vette gets dino. So why do I not just use the dino to save money? Hype! Well, synthetic does give that extra edge when oil temperatures rise uncomfortably high. __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

01-11-2010, 05:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 16	Sounds like somebody likes Amsoil

01-11-2010, 01:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 17	Road & Track is switching from Nissan Ester to a cheaper oil in their long term test car. They wanted to use a less expensive oil to determine if there was a perceptible difference in engine noise.