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I'm pretty sure you're going to get nothing but strong opinions, sonic. The "I will NEVER get a sports car with an AT" crowd is fairly stubborn, myself included. I

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I'm pretty sure you're going to get nothing but strong opinions, sonic. The "I will NEVER get a sports car with an AT" crowd is fairly stubborn, myself included. I wouldn't even test drive a car with one.

I won't try to speak for others, but I realize I am becoming a bit of a dinosaur on this issue. Ferrari, Porsche, and even Nissan don't offer MT on some sports cars because they don't maximize performance.

I also realize Nissan could not appeal to the range of enthusiasts without offering an AT. They know we aren't all tracking the car, and some of us suffer through stop and go city traffic everyday.

So, to each their own , even though MT is way better, and my Z could beat up your Z
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I'm pretty sure you're going to get nothing but strong opinions, sonic. The "I will NEVER get a sports car with an AT" crowd is fairly stubborn, myself included. I wouldn't even test drive a car with one.

I won't try to speak for others, but I realize I am becoming a bit of a dinosaur on this issue. Ferrari, Porsche, and even Nissan don't offer MT on some sports cars because they don't maximize performance.

I also realize Nissan could not appeal to the range of enthusiasts without offering an AT. They know we aren't all tracking the car, and some of us suffer through stop and go city traffic everyday.

So, to each their own , even though MT is way better, and my Z could beat up your Z

The AT in the cars you mentioned are alot different then the one in the Z correct? As much as I would rather get the new GTR in a good old 6spd even if it ment a few ticks slower but the only way it comes is with the flappy pedal tranny.
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I'm pretty sure you're going to get nothing but strong opinions, sonic. The "I will NEVER get a sports car with an AT" crowd is fairly stubborn, myself included. I wouldn't even test drive a car with one.

I won't try to speak for others, but I realize I am becoming a bit of a dinosaur on this issue. Ferrari, Porsche, and even Nissan don't offer MT on some sports cars because they don't maximize performance.

I also realize Nissan could not appeal to the range of enthusiasts without offering an AT. They know we aren't all tracking the car, and some of us suffer through stop and go city traffic everyday.

So, to each their own , even though MT is way better, and my Z could beat up your Z
I would bet that this is not true or correct against my car...........FOR ANY 370z MT.
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With 0.5 second shift times and a high level of lock-up preventing torque converter slip, most drivers will likely post faster point-to-point times with the auto than the six-speed manual 370Z.

Quote from "The Motor report".
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Neither of you have had or do have the 7at......so how can you offer a valid opinion?

Just sayin.........
Which MT 370z have you owned or driven as well?

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no regrets. some people like to shift and some people don't like to shift. i like to shift.
all cars shift. Except for the Tesla. its got one gear. and the CVT's.

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I am very happy with my 6MT and would have it no other way. Here are the reasons behind why I prefer a manual transmission:

-Much more direct in feel both in power delivery and drivability
-Can handle more power reliably
-Suit the character of the Z-Provides a level of driver involvement I believe an AT can never replicate

The 6MT in the 370z is not the most refined gear box but I love it, however I have to say the 7AT is very good at what it does.
That is a personal opinion : )

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The first time I test drove the 370z it was an auto. I disliked it a lot because of the fact that I actually enjoy driving a sports car in manual. This is why I will never buy a GTR because of the paddle shifters. I may consider the paddle shifter if it was a Ferrari but other than that... never a auto for a sports car.
The GTR's auto is better than half the ferrari's, therefor confused as to why you wouldnt want it in a GTR? personal taste?

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I would bet that this is not true or correct against my car...........FOR ANY 370z MT.
Since you seem to point purely at speed, try bullit's car.

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With 0.5 second shift times and a high level of lock-up preventing torque converter slip, most drivers will likely post faster point-to-point times with the auto than the six-speed manual 370Z.

Quote from "The Motor report".
Most drivers is the key and with little skill involved. Thus leaving room for the "really skilled drivers will post better times with the MT"

Otherwise they would have stated (ALL drivers will post better times with the AT). Also pure speed isnt the only deciding factor for buying a car or choosing the transmission. If speed was the only deciding factor, you should have gone without the touring's added weight

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either way im playing both sides of the fence. Alot of people post "opinion" as fact.

although the real fact is this..

whatever makes the person who is paying for it, and driving it happy. And if people can't respect other people's decisions on that, then dont call yourself a car enthusiast, your just a arrogant jack.

oh and thats my opinion, not a fact
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Cant wait to meet you at the Z1 get together. Bullits car is not the same Liter motor as mine anymore and not a fair comparison......that being said I would still go for it and you might be surprised. Until you ride in my TT 7AT you should hold your opinions. If you want to get an idea of how my car runs.......call John at Z1 and ask.
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Cant wait to meet you at the Z1 get together. Bullits car is not the same Liter motor as mine anymore and not a fair comparison......that being said I would still go for it and you might be surprised. Until you ride in my TT 7AT you should hold your opinions. If you want to get an idea of how my car runs.......call John at Z1 and ask.
I speak to john alot and im well aware of his opinions on your car. As well as all the other TT cars they have done. All are easily respectable, perhaps you should also respect the others? I wouldnt be suprised at your car. im well aware of what it can do. People here arent saying that the 7at is junk etc etc. They are just mostly stating they prefer whatever it is they prefer. Its like the color of your car. Are you going to tell me that riding in a blue car is different? or better looking? nah its what you wanted. I wanted white. Good thing is, im paying for mine and your paying for yours so there isnt an issue.

And my opinion, if you read my entire post was that, all cars are good as long as the driver is happy with the choice they made? im happy with mine. your happy with yours. Some arent happy with theirs and will trade it.
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I speak to john alot and im well aware of his opinions on your car. As well as all the other TT cars they have done. All are easily respectable, perhaps you should also respect the others? I wouldnt be suprised at your car. im well aware of what it can do. People here arent saying that the 7at is junk etc etc. They are just mostly stating they prefer whatever it is they prefer. Its like the color of your car. Are you going to tell me that riding in a blue car is different? or better looking? nah its what you wanted. I wanted white. Good thing is, im paying for mine and your paying for yours so there isnt an issue.

And my opinion, if you read my entire post was that, all cars are good as long as the driver is happy with the choice they made? im happy with mine. your happy with yours. Some arent happy with theirs and will trade it.
They have only done ONE other 370 TT besides mine. Yes, they have done many other TTs, but you cant compare them to the 370 (even the 350 TT) because of the VVEL.

The 7AT got a bad name on this forum because ONE person, yes only ONE, put a SC on a very high mile 370, and blew their tranny. No one knows why REALLY, but we do know, if you put FI on any high mile car you most likely will have trouble.

Most people on this forum act like we are talking about trannys in the 60's or 70's and we are not. AT's have come along way since then and are minimally equal when applied correctly in a sports cars. Again, when done correctly, the days of slush boxs are over.

I have had many MT sports cars in my life and prefer the 7AT. I have FI on my car and most drivers (if not all) would struggle to keep up with my turbos when shifting in a 1/4 mile race. Even expert drivers would have trouble shifting as fast as my TUNED 7AT.

For the record, I have nothing against the 6MT. For me, the 7AT is faster for what I want to do.
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Cant wait to meet you at the Z1 get together. Bullits car is not the same Liter motor as mine anymore and not a fair comparison......that being said I would still go for it and you might be surprised. Until you ride in my TT 7AT you should hold your opinions. If you want to get an idea of how my car runs.......call John at Z1 and ask.
oh btw ive met you quite a few times : ) at z1.. as your car was being built in its various stages..
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all cars shift. Except for the Tesla. its got one gear. and the CVT's.
sure but some cars would shift by themselves and other cars require people to do the shifting for them.

i am pretty sure my car is not capable of shifting by itself.
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My last MT was a '07 Civic SI. It had a very smooth 6 speed. Light clutch and was a lot of fun. My Z is the 7at. I love it also. I have no regrets at all. I don't track my car but I do like to use the paddles and play.
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Which MT 370z have you owned or driven as well?



all cars shift. Except for the Tesla. its got one gear. and the CVT's.



That is a personal opinion : )



The GTR's auto is better than half the ferrari's, therefor confused as to why you wouldnt want it in a GTR? personal taste?



Since you seem to point purely at speed, try bullit's car.



Most drivers is the key and with little skill involved. Thus leaving room for the "really skilled drivers will post better times with the MT"

Otherwise they would have stated (ALL drivers will post better times with the AT). Also pure speed isnt the only deciding factor for buying a car or choosing the transmission. If speed was the only deciding factor, you should have gone without the touring's added weight

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either way im playing both sides of the fence. Alot of people post "opinion" as fact.

although the real fact is this..

whatever makes the person who is paying for it, and driving it happy. And if people can't respect other people's decisions on that, then dont call yourself a car enthusiast, your just a arrogant jack.

oh and thats my opinion, not a fact
Why would I not want a Ferrari over a GTR? lol I really dont care if a GTR can destroy a Ferrari in the tracks... in the end it is still a Nissan. Plus the Ferrari just looks much more sexy. That's if I can afford both though. Unfortunately I cannot.

So If I could afford a GTR and not the Ferrari then I would just get a Z06. Don't get me wrong though. I love the GTR as much as anyone else here.

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Why would I not want a Ferrari over a GTR? lol I really dont care if a GTR can destroy a Ferrari in the tracks... in the end it is still a Nissan. Plus the Ferrari just looks much more sexy. That's if I can afford both though. Unfortunately I cannot.

So If I could afford a GTR and not the Ferrari then I would just get a Z06. Don't get me wrong though. I love the GTR as much as anyone else here.

I think he was refering to the transmission on the Ferrari over the GT-R and your views on each.
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OK here goes. I feel the need to be abused by 6mt people. My last high horsepower sports car was a 69 350 4 speed vette with a supercharger. Can you say stump puller? It was great fun to drop the hammer at 6000rpm and smoke the tires to the chord. But what sucked was driving through cities stop light to stop light. And would you believe that my clutch gave up? How did that happen? When I was at the the dealer looking at my car I wasn't interested in an at. But those paddle shifters drew me in. I love the 7at. I can drive in auto in cities and man. when I want to go through the gears, all 7 of them. I'm having great fun with my car and that is what matters. Get out and enjoy your car with whatever trans you have. I have no regrets.
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