Consumer Reports' Obsession

b1adesofcha0s · 03-06-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

I bet if you check how many short blocks Nissan has replaced due to oil consumption you would be suprised... Talking to my service advisor he told me they have done 6-7 motors due to OC just last summer... and suprisingly a ton of AT's , but on here I have yet to see anyone have one fail...

On top of the trunk hatch, ecu whine, and road noise there is a lot going against it... but I bet OC hurts it badly

What is the trunk hatch issue? Is it supposed to open automatically when you push that button underneath just once? I have to push it once, then push it again and hold it, and then lift the hatch while holding the button to open it. I just thought it was a stupid way to have to open the hatch.

steveg78 · 03-06-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

What is the trunk hatch issue? Is it supposed to open automatically when you push that button underneath just once? I have to push it once, then push it again and hold it, and then lift the hatch while holding the button to open it. I just thought it was a stupid way to have to open the hatch.

THAT my friend, is the trunk hatch issue.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ase-issue.html

TSB: 2009 nissan 370z coupe; rear hatch will not open on first push of release button

b1adesofcha0s · 03-06-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by steveg78

THAT my friend, is the trunk hatch issue.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ase-issue.html

TSB: 2009 nissan 370z coupe; rear hatch will not open on first push of release button

Thanks man! So Im assuming Nissan will fix this for free, correct?

LunaZ · 03-06-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Thanks man! So Im assuming Nissan will fix this for free, correct?

Yes. Ask your service manager to check for TSBs on your car. He'll search by your VIN, so have that handy.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-06-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

Yes. Ask your service manager to check for TSBs on your car. He'll search by your VIN, so have that handy.

Will do. Thank you sir

metson · 03-08-2011, 08:03 AM

I'm not one of the many guys I see on this forum who can put a turbo on the car, put in a new audio system or do a new custom paint job to their Z. I'm not jealous or anything as I do enjoy reading about them and hoping some day I will be able to do some of that. I'm doing okay...just glad to have a Z which I try to take good care of as it is kind of my dream car. I was happy in a way except for property taxes of how the car held its value. But then I read this about Consumer Reports and its very disappointing because I know how it will effect things. I had this happen to me many years ago with a car that I owned. When the day comes to purchase another vehicle even another Z....the dealer will go, "Well...that year was not good as you can see in Consumer Reports so we can only give you this on the car" or if you try to sell it..some guy will go "Consumer reports says...." I like consumer reports myself but sometimes their judgement is unfair. I have had none of the issues that I read about. I guess the sad thing is that maybe all the research they hear is from people with problems and not those who are happy with the car.... Don't know if what I'm saying is making any sense as I was surprised to see this and as I said very disappointed. I'm too disappointed with Nissan. Some issues and problems they could react to better then they do and many customers would not be upset and frustrated as they get due to Nissan's reactions. Sometimes I feel that all they want to do is just sell you the car.... and then the heck with you afterwards. THANKS CONSUMER REPORTS AND NISSAN......THANK YOU!

jpit · 03-08-2011, 09:54 AM

Consumer Reports gives the 370Z its highest mark for holding retail value.

Sundown · 03-08-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

Got the new car edition of CR today. I expected its ongoing gripes about the 370Z's poor visibility, harsh ride, road noise and reliability (ECU whine, oil temperature, thin paint, etc) but the crowning gem in this issue is that my year, the 2009, is now listed as among the worst USED cars to buy. I'm sure this will be flaunted by my buyer during re-sale negotiations and will cost me.
Perfect example here of how much harm the press can do.

Funny thing. I just spoke with my insurance adjuster, and they valued my car at $2K more than what I owed on it. So, who said they don't hold their value?

Bunch of morons.

Super Red Z · 03-08-2011, 08:36 PM

I don't care.Only thing I do know I love my Z...peace out

Jordo! · 03-08-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by metson

I'm not one of the many guys I see on this forum who can put a turbo on the car, put in a new audio system or do a new custom paint job to their Z. I'm not jealous or anything as I do enjoy reading about them and hoping some day I will be able to do some of that. I'm doing okay...just glad to have a Z which I try to take good care of as it is kind of my dream car. I was happy in a way except for property taxes of how the car held its value. But then I read this about Consumer Reports and its very disappointing because I know how it will effect things. I had this happen to me many years ago with a car that I owned. When the day comes to purchase another vehicle even another Z....the dealer will go, "Well...that year was not good as you can see in Consumer Reports so we can only give you this on the car" or if you try to sell it..some guy will go "Consumer reports says...." I like consumer reports myself but sometimes their judgement is unfair. I have had none of the issues that I read about. I guess the sad thing is that maybe all the research they hear is from people with problems and not those who are happy with the car.... Don't know if what I'm saying is making any sense as I was surprised to see this and as I said very disappointed. I'm too disappointed with Nissan. Some issues and problems they could react to better then they do and many customers would not be upset and frustrated as they get due to Nissan's reactions. Sometimes I feel that all they want to do is just sell you the car.... and then the heck with you afterwards. THANKS CONSUMER REPORTS AND NISSAN......THANK YOU!

I wouldn't worry too much about it -- all cars depreciate quite a bit. Anyway, if you trade it in, the dealers will invariably fvck you running on the deal anyhow

In the end, you'll never get close to its theoretical value back (closer on a private sale, obviously) -- that's just the way it is with 99.99% of all cars.

Inspector71 · 03-09-2011, 12:01 PM

I had 5 Rx7's before the Z and CR trashed them for road noise. Some friends sold their Mazdas for that reason. I never noticed or didn't care. I wasn't buying a sound studio but something that would fly and handle. Same with my 09 Z. I don't pay attention to road noise as this is a sportscar after all. I can turn up the stereo or mash the throttle and hear some sweet sounds.

BLM · 03-09-2011, 12:04 PM

Buying a used sports/performance car is always a crap shoot. Aside from a lot of mid life crisis-mobiles, most people buy sports cars to drive them hard. They rev the engines to redline, test the limits of braking, handling, and the transmission usually takes a beating too. It's always buyer beware. I pity the fool who ended up with my parted out WRX. I returned it to stock form but that thing had more than twice the power going through the engine and transmission than what it came with and I drove it hard.

macaddict111 · 05-09-2012, 05:21 PM

Consumer Reports makes themselves sound like they are the authority on everything. I've read them since I was a kid. But honestly, they are the last place I would really turn. And think about it: who the hell would get product ratings literally on paper? By the time their report is published, none of the models are even on the shelf anymore! They target exactly the type of consumer that would choose a car based on a non-car specific magazine: people who don't use the internet. Honestly, who the heck buys a car because of pure economy?!? If that were the case we would all be driving a Yaris (it's a car!) They make some of the most nonsensical comparisons and honestly I think sometimes they just rate things oddly so people feel "informed" and "aloof", like they found out some product revelation they wouldn't have found anywhere else. Back when stability control was first starting to get popular on new cars, they made a VERY strong point about the fact that they would NOT RECOMMEND an otherwise perfect car if it didn't come with stability control standard, base-trim. That's when I stared to realize that Consumer Reports is more of a consumer advocacy and activist magazine than anything.

LakeShow · 05-09-2012, 05:23 PM

From the depths of the past.

macaddict111 · 05-09-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

From the depths of the past.

Exactly. They're the type of thing that would have been great when folks didn't really have anywhere to find out what companies weren't good and were taking advantage of customers (Shocking Revelation: Sun Lamps cause Skin Cancer!) But they've been easily outmoded and now I feel like they mainly publish stuff for the shock value than for actual information.

03-08-2011, 08:03 AM	#66 (permalink)
metson Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newport News, VA. Posts: 15 Drives: Nissan 370Z-2009-Red Rep Power: 16	Disappointed... I'm not one of the many guys I see on this forum who can put a turbo on the car, put in a new audio system or do a new custom paint job to their Z. I'm not jealous or anything as I do enjoy reading about them and hoping some day I will be able to do some of that. I'm doing okay...just glad to have a Z which I try to take good care of as it is kind of my dream car. I was happy in a way except for property taxes of how the car held its value. But then I read this about Consumer Reports and its very disappointing because I know how it will effect things. I had this happen to me many years ago with a car that I owned. When the day comes to purchase another vehicle even another Z....the dealer will go, "Well...that year was not good as you can see in Consumer Reports so we can only give you this on the car" or if you try to sell it..some guy will go "Consumer reports says...." I like consumer reports myself but sometimes their judgement is unfair. I have had none of the issues that I read about. I guess the sad thing is that maybe all the research they hear is from people with problems and not those who are happy with the car.... Don't know if what I'm saying is making any sense as I was surprised to see this and as I said very disappointed. I'm too disappointed with Nissan. Some issues and problems they could react to better then they do and many customers would not be upset and frustrated as they get due to Nissan's reactions. Sometimes I feel that all they want to do is just sell you the car.... and then the heck with you afterwards. THANKS CONSUMER REPORTS AND NISSAN......THANK YOU!

03-09-2011, 12:01 PM	#71 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	Minor problems I had 5 Rx7's before the Z and CR trashed them for road noise. Some friends sold their Mazdas for that reason. I never noticed or didn't care. I wasn't buying a sound studio but something that would fly and handle. Same with my 09 Z. I don't pay attention to road noise as this is a sportscar after all. I can turn up the stereo or mash the throttle and hear some sweet sounds.

03-09-2011, 12:04 PM	#72 (permalink)
BLM Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Drives: 2011 Silver M6 sport Rep Power: 14	Buying a used sports/performance car is always a crap shoot. Aside from a lot of mid life crisis-mobiles, most people buy sports cars to drive them hard. They rev the engines to redline, test the limits of braking, handling, and the transmission usually takes a beating too. It's always buyer beware. I pity the fool who ended up with my parted out WRX. I returned it to stock form but that thing had more than twice the power going through the engine and transmission than what it came with and I drove it hard. __________________ K&N // GTM // BERK Last edited by BLM; 03-09-2011 at 12:07 PM.

05-09-2012, 05:23 PM	#74 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	From the depths of the past. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

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