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Originally Posted by 90 ST i'd say 50/50, more power would have been nice, but i can bolt that on. 332 out of the box for $30k is kind of

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Old 03-05-2011, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i'd say 50/50, more power would have been nice, but i can bolt that on.

332 out of the box for $30k is kind of the best out there. In terms of sports cars/sedans I can't think of any under 45k that make this kind of power out of the box.
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332 out of the box for $30k is kind of the best out there. In terms of sports cars/sedans I can't think of any under 45k that make this kind of power out of the box.
The new Mustang 5.0 has 412 for around the same price as the Z. I would say that is the best overall performance value out there, but I still prefer the Z myself for other reasons.
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The new Mustang 5.0 has 412 for around the same price as the Z. I would say that is the best overall performance value out there, but I still prefer the Z myself for other reasons.
It's got even more than that. Ive read reviews online of stock dyno's of 395 whp. Also, even with all the performance upgrades (which brings the price to $40-41k), a base model Z with sport pckg (I paid $32,300) has the same 0-60 time and beats the fully loaded 5.0 GT in skidpad, slalom, 60-0 braking (even with the brembo's on the stang) and falls short only in 1/4 mile.

So to me even with all the improvements the mustang is still a straight line monster. Also, i don't like the looks at all.

So the Z outperforms the 5.0 in all categories besides 1/4 mile at $8k less. If you throw that 8 grand into a turbo or supercharger set-up it would beat the mustang in a straight line.

I do like what ford has done tho. Those will be making 450+ whp with bolt-ons. But I'd never own one.
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It's got even more than that. Ive read reviews online of stock dyno's of 395 whp. Also, even with all the performance upgrades (which brings the price to $40-41k), a base model Z with sport pckg (I paid $32,300) has the same 0-60 time and beats the fully loaded 5.0 GT in skidpad, slalom, 60-0 braking (even with the brembo's on the stang) and falls short only in 1/4 mile.

So to me even with all the improvements the mustang is still a straight line monster. Also, i don't like the looks at all.

So the Z outperforms the 5.0 in all categories besides 1/4 mile at $8k less. If you throw that 8 grand into a turbo or supercharger set-up it would beat the mustang in a straight line.

I do like what ford has done tho. Those will be making 450+ whp with bolt-ons. But I'd never own one.
I've heard from m4a1mustang (who went from a 370Z to a 5.0) that the handling on the mustang is almost as good as the Z, but the car is much faster overall. I do think it would be able to beat a Z around the track. Not sure how much the actual price people are paying for a fully loaded 5.0, but I see a lot of 5.0's listed on Cars.com in the $20k's and $30k's range.
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I've heard from m4a1mustang (who went from a 370Z to a 5.0) that the handling on the mustang is almost as good as the Z, but the car is much faster overall. I do think it would be able to beat a Z around the track. Not sure how much the actual price people are paying for a fully loaded 5.0, but I see a lot of 5.0's listed on Cars.com in the $20k's and $30k's range.
Unless the track has a very long straight I highly doubt the mustang would beat a z even in the fully loaded $40k version with brembo's. And I'd hope the car is faster overall. It has 1300 cc more displacement. I'm
Happy for ford and mustang enthusiasts tho. They must be drooling over it and the value you get for a relatively low price tag. I'd get this over an SS camaro any day.
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Unless the track has a very long straight I highly doubt the mustang would beat a z even in the fully loaded $40k version with brembo's. And I'd hope the car is faster overall. It has 1300 cc more displacement. I'm
Happy for ford and mustang enthusiasts tho. They must be drooling over it and the value you get for a relatively low price tag. I'd get this over an SS camaro any day.
ford says the mustang boss 302 would even beat the bmw m3 on the track and before the dealer markup it is selling for around $40k.
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ford says the mustang boss 302 would even beat the bmw m3 on the track and before the dealer markup it is selling for around $40k.
The boss 302 looks bad *** but it still starts at $4k above a z with sport package. I think it's great that ford is giving their customers (especially the enthusiasts) so many options. Just not for me. I find them terribly ugly and it's just not my style. But I'm glad to see them jumping on the performance/enthusiast bandwagon
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Unless the track has a very long straight I highly doubt the mustang would beat a z even in the fully loaded $40k version with brembo's. And I'd hope the car is faster overall. It has 1300 cc more displacement. I'm
Happy for ford and mustang enthusiasts tho. They must be drooling over it and the value you get for a relatively low price tag. I'd get this over an SS camaro any day.
You do know a 2011 'Stang has matched an M3 on a track, correct? Here, read this...

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

If you think the 370Z can keep up with the new 'stang on anything but an autoX track, you're dreaming. There are many reasons to pick a 370Z over a mustang but normal track performance simply isn't one of them.
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You do know a 2011 'Stang has matched an M3 on a track, correct? Here, read this...

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

If you think the 370Z can keep up with the new 'stang on anything but an autoX track, you're dreaming. There are many reasons to pick a 370Z over a mustang but normal track performance simply isn't one of them.
As I said before, the only figure where the Mustang GT out-performs the Z is in straight line acceleration. The article you mentioned gave the GT and M3 4.4 0-60 and 12.7 vs 12.8 in the 1/4. I've never seen those times. Most give 4.6 and 12.9-13.0 but it's really splitting hairs. The Z is 0-60 in 4.7 and 1/4 in 13.2-13.3. And one would expect such figures from the mustang, given the extra 100 hp and 1300 cc displacement, as well as 3.73's. The Z does better on the skidpad, slalom, and braking (despite the brembo package on the mustang). The Z is also 300 lbs lighter, and the sport tuned Z is $4000 cheaper than the tested GT with Brembo's and 3.73 gears. Also, iirc doesnt the 400+ hp stang come with 255's in the rear? Traction would be a problem for sure under heavy driving. The sport Z comes stock with 245/275 with less power and less weight. That'd be my first mod if I had one (which i never would). I'd throw some 305's on the rear. I'm very impressed with the Mustang for sure. The improvements they've made are long overdue. The power:weight ratio is imo the most impressive stat on this car. And in grand Ford fashion, they're rating it at 412 hp and they're dynoing stock at 395 whp. But I'd never own one for many reasons, and unless you're on a long straight, given equally skilled drivers I think it would be a close battle between the mustang and the Z on a road course. However, if the mustang had appropriate traction I think it wouldn't be close at all. I just dont see 255 tires being able to have that car hit it's potential on the track given it's weight, power, and stopping ability.
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It's got even more than that. Ive read reviews online of stock dyno's of 395 whp. Also, even with all the performance upgrades (which brings the price to $40-41k), a base model Z with sport pckg (I paid $32,300) has the same 0-60 time and beats the fully loaded 5.0 GT in skidpad, slalom, 60-0 braking (even with the brembo's on the stang) and falls short only in 1/4 mile.

So to me even with all the improvements the mustang is still a straight line monster. Also, i don't like the looks at all.

So the Z outperforms the 5.0 in all categories besides 1/4 mile at $8k less. If you throw that 8 grand into a turbo or supercharger set-up it would beat the mustang in a straight line.

I do like what ford has done tho. Those will be making 450+ whp with bolt-ons. But I'd never own one.
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