Everyone with oil temp issues

chubbs · 04-02-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

So yes you could theoretically disable this feature but I'm not sure if that would be a good thing.

I forgot where I saw it, might have been one of the Japanese forums (ask your buddies over there if they know) but someone did replace the sender and gauge with a racing unit as a test and the readings were quite close. It wasn't tested side by side but was under similar conditions. My ability to read Japanese is limited to what the translator spits out so I may have misinterpreted the information.

Thanks for that Chris - I agree it would be a bad idea to disable a safety feature.

JoeyD · 04-02-2009, 11:59 AM

I don't have the time to read this whole thread this morning (I'll get to it tonight probably). Has anyone mentioned the following?... Car magazines, publications, and TV spots are all forms of advertising for Nissan. They deliberately misled the press by installing non-standard and non-available parts on the test cars. Isn't that false advertising? These parts make the press cars and the market cars two different animals. This is the old "bate and switch" at its best. This goes beyond mechanical problems and into the realm of legal and ethical debate. The fact that they put these parts on press cars is a blatant admission that there is a temperature problem and Nissan had prior knowledge of it and released the car anyway. This could very easily turn in to a class-action suit IMHO.

And just to be clear that I'm not coming out of left field here...this weekend I did my first ever autoX event. After one 90sec run my temp was already close to 270 and continued to rise for at least 5 minutes after the run. I have no doubt that if I had done two consecutive laps my car would have surpassed the 280F mark.

ChrisSlicks · 04-02-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD

I don't have the time to read this whole thread this morning (I'll get to it tonight probably). Has anyone mentioned the following?... Car magazines, publications, and TV spots are all forms of advertising for Nissan. They deliberately misled the press by installing non-standard and non-available parts on the test cars. Isn't that false advertising? These parts make the press cars and the market cars two different animals. This is the old "bate and switch" at its best. This goes beyond mechanical problems and into the realm of legal and ethical debate. The fact that they put these parts on press cars is a blatant admission that there is a temperature problem and Nissan had prior knowledge of it and released the car anyway. This could very easily turn in to a class-action suit IMHO.

I agree, their actions are dubious at best. Illegal, no ... but when the press decides to run with it it could look bad for them.

ChrisSlicks · 04-02-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD

And just to be clear that I'm not coming out of left field here...this weekend I did my first ever autoX event. After one 90sec run my temp was already close to 270 and continued to rise for at least 5 minutes after the run. I have no doubt that if I had done two consecutive laps my car would have surpassed the 280F mark.

What was the ambient temperature that day?

I have my first Auto-X in this car on Saturday, ambient is expected to be around 60F. We run a 130-140 second course typically.

-Chris

Musashi · 04-02-2009, 12:55 PM

I wrote Car & Driver, of course I did not get a reply. I'm guessing they don't want to offend an advertiser....

JoeyD · 04-02-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

What was the ambient temperature that day?

I have my first Auto-X in this car on Saturday, ambient is expected to be around 60F. We run a 130-140 second course typically.

-Chris

It was 70F & Rainy on Saturday
and about 74F on Sunday. Honestly I think it could of been -20F and it would still heat up like that. The temps climbed really fast.

tbonesteak · 04-02-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD

It was 70F & Rainy on Saturday
and about 74F on Sunday. Honestly I think it could of been -20F and it would still heat up like that. The temps climbed really fast.

absolutely unbelievable. So we know that the problem is in 100% of the production cars. I know if we create enough awareness Nissan will have to fix the problem....but since we only represent a spec of dust from the entire 370 population, its difficult..

Johnnyquad17 · 04-02-2009, 03:17 PM

This is similiar to Nissan GTR issues/lies. The only time that the GTR can beat a 911 Turbo is when they use the launch control feature. Which has lead to many transmission issues and Nissan has it in the manual/warranty if you use this feature it voids the warranty. Go to the GTR websites if you do not beleave me. That is why I am leary of buying a Nissan even though I love the 370. I don't trust them.

Musashi · 04-02-2009, 03:58 PM

I think it's important that we stay focused on the oil temp issues here. I don't want to get off subject.

tbonesteak · 04-02-2009, 04:26 PM

Only thing we can do at this point is create as much awareness as possible. Nissan won't do squat until they know that it's affecting their sales.

Gamedog · 04-02-2009, 04:29 PM

I own a G37 and my car went into limp mode while doing a canyon run out here on Palomar at midnite. Lots of people have had oil heating issues with the G37 so far, and I witnessed it firsthand. I was hoping Nissan would've addressed this for you 370Z guys since they've known about the problem.

But yeah, Limp mode FTL. Redline drops to about 6,200, throttle is reduced to about 40% no matter if you have it floored.

Since then, I've changed to Eneos 5W30 and haven't had that problem come up since, and I've done the same canyon run twice now.

tbonesteak · 04-02-2009, 04:33 PM

^^do you have a temp gauge? maybe one of the z guys should try that oil and see what the temps go up to...

Gamedog · 04-02-2009, 04:37 PM

No no temp gauge bro. I'm doin another canyon run this weekend and I'll letchu guys know the outcome.

But yeah when your car goes into limp mode, its a total "WTF?" moment.

antennahead · 04-02-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

permanent? so you think an aftermarket oil cooler that's never been extensively tested nor warranted by Nissan NA that you installed yourself will be permanent? Dude...i've owned many high performance cars in the past both highly modded and stock which i've tracked extensively and i can tell you that the oil cooler you will install will definitely not be permanent. Neither is the one Nissan slaps on but atleast it'll be covered by warranty.

What? Do you think I would install some bull**** brand oil cooler on the car? I am referring to a Nismo or Stillen type product that will come out after testing to reduce temps. Permanent refers to "an oil cooler fixing the hi temp issue", not to the cooler itself being permanent...... then again, install a quality product that has been tested and it should last for many years.

John

JoeyD · 04-02-2009, 08:39 PM

what's permanent?

04-02-2009, 11:59 AM	#77 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 186	I don't have the time to read this whole thread this morning (I'll get to it tonight probably). Has anyone mentioned the following?... Car magazines, publications, and TV spots are all forms of advertising for Nissan. They deliberately misled the press by installing non-standard and non-available parts on the test cars. Isn't that false advertising? These parts make the press cars and the market cars two different animals. This is the old "bate and switch" at its best. This goes beyond mechanical problems and into the realm of legal and ethical debate. The fact that they put these parts on press cars is a blatant admission that there is a temperature problem and Nissan had prior knowledge of it and released the car anyway. This could very easily turn in to a class-action suit IMHO. And just to be clear that I'm not coming out of left field here...this weekend I did my first ever autoX event. After one 90sec run my temp was already close to 270 and continued to rise for at least 5 minutes after the run. I have no doubt that if I had done two consecutive laps my car would have surpassed the 280F mark. __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats? Last edited by JoeyD; 04-02-2009 at 12:03 PM.

04-02-2009, 04:29 PM	#86 (permalink)
Gamedog Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 21 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37S Rep Power: 16	I own a G37 and my car went into limp mode while doing a canyon run out here on Palomar at midnite. Lots of people have had oil heating issues with the G37 so far, and I witnessed it firsthand. I was hoping Nissan would've addressed this for you 370Z guys since they've known about the problem. But yeah, Limp mode FTL. Redline drops to about 6,200, throttle is reduced to about 40% no matter if you have it floored. Since then, I've changed to Eneos 5W30 and haven't had that problem come up since, and I've done the same canyon run twice now. __________________ G37S:\|:6MT TEAM OUTCAST

04-02-2009, 04:37 PM	#88 (permalink)
Gamedog Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 21 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37S Rep Power: 16	No no temp gauge bro. I'm doin another canyon run this weekend and I'll letchu guys know the outcome. But yeah when your car goes into limp mode, its a total "WTF?" moment. __________________ G37S:\|:6MT TEAM OUTCAST

04-02-2009, 08:39 PM	#90 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 186	what's permanent? __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

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Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 606	I think it's important that we stay focused on the oil temp issues here. I don't want to get off subject.

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tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	Only thing we can do at this point is create as much awareness as possible. Nissan won't do squat until they know that it's affecting their sales.

04-02-2009, 04:33 PM	#87 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	^^do you have a temp gauge? maybe one of the z guys should try that oil and see what the temps go up to...