Is it a conspiracy against the Z?

ImportConvert · 12-10-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianMSmith

Many people have it tough latley, if they haven't lost a job, or a spouse hasn't lost a job, cutting income massivley, then they are underwater in their mortgage if not going into forclosure because the interest only option arm has reset and their payments have gone up 20%.......

During the credit boom times of the last 15 years or so, many people thought they were doing much better financially than they actually were, and now reality has come to roost.

And unfortunatley people are just p-o'd, and it's human nature to resent people who are still doing well and showing it off with a new car, either down to good luck or just old fashioned hard work and sacrafice for years putting you in a good position.....

I can understand if someone is saying "Wow, sucks to drive what you drive...I have a *insert*!"

However, there is ALWAYS someone doing better than you, and if you can't accept that, you need to work on personal improvement--it's not their fault you're not as successful as they are.

I understand where you are coming from, and I think you are right, but I don't feel like that is a cop-out to act a turd. I still remember when I was in college and I remarked "I hate rich people, and if/when I'm rich, I'll hate poor people like those rich people hate us now."

Yeah--pretty much. Although, I don't hate poor people. I hate how some people behave because they perceive themselves to be poor and take it out on those who they perceive to be better off. Let's face it. If you are posting on the 'net, you either have a good community resource (library) at your disposal, and transportation (public/private) to get you there, or your health to walk there, or you have your own personal PC and internet connection/connection you pirated with your aircard.

Either way, if you're reading this, you aren't that bad off

*You/you're, etc. are not personal, but universal, in context above.

Jeffblue · 12-10-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

However, there is ALWAYS someone doing better than you, and if you can't accept that, you need to work on personal improvement

also, add in the fact that just b/c someone is in possesion of a nice car doesn't mean they are really wealthy enough to afford it. These days, all you need is decent credit, and the willingness to take on a huge debt in order to 'own'(but not really).

also it could be a leased car. I think most people who would hate on a nice car owner would think 'oh, nice car, they must be so rich they paid cash for it. fvck them.

but honestly, i think its mostly influenced by being totally aloof. Jeremy clarkson had quote that went something like this:

"People who drive rubbish cars should not be allowed to drive. Here's why. If you drive a rubbish car, it means you don't like cars. If you don't like something, then you can't be any good at it, and if you're not any good at driving, you shouldn't be allowed to drive"

obviously, he is kidding around but he does make a certain point. If you drive a shitty car (And its your ONLY car, not your beater or w/e) chances are (not necessarily) that you really don't care about cars at all. as long as it gets you from a-b, you don't care what it is, how it looks, how it drives or anything. So chances are, when you pull into a parking lot and you see a really nice car, it doesn't really register as a nice car. it's just a car, and you park next to it for no apparent reason. You park very close because you don't care about cars, and can't understand why someone would care if you invaded the 'space' of your vehicle.

there are a lot of people out there that don't give a rats *** about cars. There was a girl in my high school that, beyond the color and number of doors, couldn't tell the difference between cars. She'd look at a 7 series bmw, and not understand the difference between that and a black dodge stratus. it just didn't register. they were both just black sedans.

ImportConvert · 12-10-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

also, add in the fact that just b/c someone is in possesion of a nice car doesn't mean they are really wealthy enough to afford it. These days, all you need is decent credit, and the willingness to take on a huge debt in order to 'own'(but not really).

also it could be a leased car. I think most people who would hate on a nice car owner would think 'oh, nice car, they must be so rich they paid cash for it. fvck them.

but honestly, i think its mostly influenced by being totally aloof. Jeremy clarkson had quote that went something like this:

"People who drive rubbish cars should not be allowed to drive. Here's why. If you drive a rubbish car, it means you don't like cars. If you don't like something, then you can't be any good at it, and if you're not any good at driving, you shouldn't be allowed to drive"

obviously, he is kidding around but he does make a certain point. If you drive a shitty car (And its your ONLY car, not your beater or w/e) chances are (not necessarily) that you really don't care about cars at all. as long as it gets you from a-b, you don't care what it is, how it looks, how it drives or anything. So chances are, when you pull into a parking lot and you see a really nice car, it doesn't really register as a nice car. it's just a car, and you park next to it for no apparent reason. You park very close because you don't care about cars, and can't understand why someone would care if you invaded the 'space' of your vehicle.

there are a lot of people out there that don't give a rats *** about cars. There was a girl in my high school that, beyond the color and number of doors, couldn't tell the difference between cars. She'd look at a 7 series bmw, and not understand the difference between that and a black dodge stratus. it just didn't register. they were both just black sedans.

I agree with a lot of what you said, except I used to work at a dealership. We weren't supposed to, but we saw the credit score of nearly every person. You would be amazed at how rare a 700+ Beacon was. People are just as jealous of good credit as they are good income.

crash1369 · 12-10-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ztoon

My favorite incident:
Was waiting in the Z at the front of Walmart to pick up my wife. (hate going in that place). Guy walks over and leaves his shopping cart 10 inches from my front bumper! Eye contact, smirk, and walks away. Wife arrives, we leave, and spot the guy at the very back of the lot, bags in hand. Roll up behind him in neutral, three feet behind, into gear and make like I'm doin the quarter mile. From my rear view, I could see he'd let go of the bags, and he was twitching pretty good!
Yah, I know, kinda immature, and some sh.t from the wife........ still worth it though!

Love it!

Holy Christwagons

Like three days after I got my car, still all shiny and obviously brand new I went to the store. Parked far away from everybody, like always, but as I was pulling into the spot I saw this guy half down the lot putting his last bag in his stupid toyota. So out of curiosity I thought I would watch and see what he did with the cart, becuase as we know nobody ever brings those ******* things back. Not surprisingly this was no exception but then I realized he was pushing it right up to my car becuase he "didn't feel like walking" and of course this guy was so arrogant about the whole thing, if he didn't run of as soon as I took a step back towards my car I probably would have ended up throwing that damn cart at him.

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

"People who drive rubbish cars should not be allowed to drive. Here's why. If you drive a rubbish car, it means you don't like cars. If you don't like something, then you can't be any good at it, and if you're not any good at driving, you shouldn't be allowed to drive"

I think that is the smartest thing I have ever heard

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Originally Posted by fuct

or her Bf/hubby keeps it clean for her.......

ive never known a woman that would keep her car clean on a religious basis.

oh that is so true

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I agree with a lot of what you said, except I used to work at a dealership. We weren't supposed to, but we saw the credit score of nearly every person. You would be amazed at how rare a 700+ Beacon was. People are just as jealous of good credit as they are good income.

So is that why the sales man keeps sucking up to me then, I guess I have unusually good credit and he thinks he can sell me another car

ProfessorDave · 12-10-2010, 09:45 AM

The guy who intentionally tried to get me into an accident in his POS truck could have just been universally unstable or a sociopath. The smug look he gave me said "you think you're better than me?', which led me to believe his actions were about the car (I'm theorizing of course. Had I engaged him in conversation that would not have been the first thing I would have "said"). But I'm thinking it's a Nissan, not a Ferrari! It's a 30+k car, not 100+k. There are beemers, mercs, and lexus (lexi?) all around me that cost much more. They are boring looking cars, so maybe people don't get offended.

So, I should buy an old Escort or something to drive?

kenchan · 12-10-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

So, I should buy an old Escort or something to drive?

no professordave... i drive a Fit to work each day with black steelies (snow tire set). l look like one of them. from this side (

), i can say that snobs that drive nicer big cars drive like they ownz the place and tries to cut me off because i drive a pos ecnobox with 'stolen hubcaps.'

i think people on this side have a very different view about folks on the otherside.

oh, and wat's wrong with asking if he likes potstickers? you f-king americans asked me if i like sushi when i came here. you folks taught me. they even said they think they knew me...

ProfessorDave · 12-10-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

no professordave... i drive a Fit to work each day with black steelies (snow tire set). l look like one of them. from this side (

), i can say that snobs that drive nicer big cars drive like they ownz the place and tries to cut me off because i drive a pos ecnobox with 'stolen hubcaps.'

i think people on this side have a very different view about folks on the otherside.

oh, and wat's wrong with asking if he likes potstickers? you f-king americans asked me if i like sushi when i came here. you folks taught me. they even said they think they knew me...

Ken, I have never once wondered about your food preferences

. But now you've made me hungry. Damn you kenchan and your forum hypnosis

kenchan · 12-10-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

Ken, I have never once wondered about your food preferences

. But now you've made me hungry. Damn you kenchan and your forum hypnosis

i can use some nice charburger with cheeze fries right about now.

ProfessorDave · 12-10-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i can use some nice charburger with cheeze fries right about now.

Oh, you just won't let up

. Now headed to Five Guys for a burger

bullitt5897 · 12-10-2010, 10:23 AM

Its like my younger brother... He hates cars and hates driving and my parents bought him the top of the line 2009 Tahoe with a special order 6.2L V8 with 22's... I said dude for christmas let me do something for your car... you know like a new set of rims or a new stereo system... can you believe this he said NO!!! I was floored! I built his last car and he loved it...

As far as driving with idiots and parking:

I drive like I ride my motorcycles my brain is working overtime! Anyone who rides bikes on the streets knows you have to be paranoid!!! and when it comes to parking I take the extra long walk or park in a end space to limit my exposure... when my car comes back I will take 3 spaces cause F*ck these B*tches my car is precious to me and costs more than their dam house!!! LMAO!

KaienZ34 · 12-10-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Its like my younger brother... He hates cars and hates driving and my parents bought him the top of the line 2009 Tahoe with a special order 6.2L V8 with 22's... I said dude for christmas let me do something for your car... you know like a new set of rims or a new stereo system... can you believe this he said NO!!! I was floored! I built his last car and he loved it...

As far as driving with idiots and parking:

I drive like I ride my motorcycles my brain is working overtime! Anyone who rides bikes on the streets knows you have to be paranoid!!! and when it comes to parking I take the extra long walk or park in a end space to limit my exposure... when my car comes back I will take 3 spaces cause F*ck these B*tches my car is precious to me and costs more than their dam house!!! LMAO!

My Precious.....

bullitt5897 · 12-10-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

My Precious.....

DAM STR8!!!

G Fo12ce · 12-10-2010, 10:52 AM

I've killed like 4 birds so far. Granted I work off a canyon road but those little F-ers want to fly out accross the road right as I approach. I even dusted one head on the other day. Thank god they are just the little sparrow types and that I have a clear bra. I don't know if it's the car, the color or what...

bullitt5897 · 12-10-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce

I've killed like 4 birds so far. Granted I work off a canyon road but those little F-ers want to fly out accross the road right as I approach. I even dusted one head on the other day. Thank god they are just the little sparrow types and that I have a clear bra. I don't know if it's the car, the color or what...

HAHAHA I have done that before... lol and I was aiming for the sucker! they always seem to make it without getting hit but not this time I rolled him like a bad habbit off my side view mirror hahaha. Whats really bad is when I had my Lexus IS a few years back I hit a Bat late at night... Sucker left a HUGE imprint on the windshield LMAO

My brother was sleeping and was like WTF did we hit??? I was like your not going to believe this... a bat!!! Dam blind flying rats!!!

mick · 12-10-2010, 09:34 PM

haha. this reminds of the time when when i bought my 370z. the sales man asked me to fill out the credit application and i told him it wasn't necessary, i would write the dealer a big check.

and then when the paper work was done, it said the dealer had the lien on the car. i told him i already wrote you a big check, how could you have a lien on the car?

12-10-2010, 09:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 20	The guy who intentionally tried to get me into an accident in his POS truck could have just been universally unstable or a sociopath. The smug look he gave me said "you think you're better than me?', which led me to believe his actions were about the car (I'm theorizing of course. Had I engaged him in conversation that would not have been the first thing I would have "said"). But I'm thinking it's a Nissan, not a Ferrari! It's a 30+k car, not 100+k. There are beemers, mercs, and lexus (lexi?) all around me that cost much more. They are boring looking cars, so maybe people don't get offended. So, I should buy an old Escort or something to drive? __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

12-10-2010, 10:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3684	Its like my younger brother... He hates cars and hates driving and my parents bought him the top of the line 2009 Tahoe with a special order 6.2L V8 with 22's... I said dude for christmas let me do something for your car... you know like a new set of rims or a new stereo system... can you believe this he said NO!!! I was floored! I built his last car and he loved it... As far as driving with idiots and parking: I drive like I ride my motorcycles my brain is working overtime! Anyone who rides bikes on the streets knows you have to be paranoid!!! and when it comes to parking I take the extra long walk or park in a end space to limit my exposure... when my car comes back I will take 3 spaces cause Fck these Btches my car is precious to me and costs more than their dam house!!! LMAO! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

12-10-2010, 10:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 53	I've killed like 4 birds so far. Granted I work off a canyon road but those little F-ers want to fly out accross the road right as I approach. I even dusted one head on the other day. Thank god they are just the little sparrow types and that I have a clear bra. I don't know if it's the car, the color or what... __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here!

12-10-2010, 09:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 18	haha. this reminds of the time when when i bought my 370z. the sales man asked me to fill out the credit application and i told him it wasn't necessary, i would write the dealer a big check. and then when the paper work was done, it said the dealer had the lien on the car. i told him i already wrote you a big check, how could you have a lien on the car?