Trading in GTR for a 370z

ImportConvert · 12-01-2010, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

alot of high end sports car are now coming in a DCT. DO people think its less of a sports car cause of that?

Certainly not, and I will be the first to admit that a manumatic is going to shift faster than me, but that's missing the point for 99% of the users who actually drive the car for fun and not because they have to have the biggest pecker or because they compete for $$ or whatnot.

You don't drop near 6-figures on a car because you think it will beat another car by .1 second to 60 mph (well, some people might, I guess.). You drop that kind of money for the smile it brings to your face when you drive it. To me, being insulated with all these technological gatgets and widgets, I would be better off just paying a pro driver to drive it for me. No, I smile when stabbing a clutch and jamming some gears. Flicking a lever, not so much.

The GT-R is of course a fast car that lays down great numbers. It just doesn't need any help from you to do it, and that's kindof taking the fun out of things. It's like owning a rifle that aims itself. Cool trick, but going to the range or hitting that big buck just wouldn't make you feel so good after a few times.

Jeffblue · 12-01-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Certainly not, and I will be the first to admit that a manumatic is going to shift faster than me, but that's missing the point for 99% of the users who actually drive the car for fun and not because they have to have the biggest pecker or because they compete for $$ or whatnot.

You don't drop near 6-figures on a car because you think it will beat another car by .1 second to 60 mph (well, some people might, I guess.). You drop that kind of money for the smile it brings to your face when you drive it. To me, being insulated with all these technological gatgets and widgets, I would be better off just paying a pro driver to drive it for me. No, I smile when stabbing a clutch and jamming some gears. Flicking a lever, not so much.

The GT-R is of course a fast car that lays down great numbers. It just doesn't need any help from you to do it, and that's kindof taking the fun out of things. It's like owning a rifle that aims itself. Cool trick, but going to the range or hitting that big buck just wouldn't make you feel so good after a few times.

The shifts in a GTR with its dual clutch transmission is so much faster than what your friends mustang GT was, its a totally different animal. I'm a stick shift guy too, and i wouldn't get a car that doesn't come in stick (at least for right now) but honestly, go drive an F1 car or a lemans car, and tell me how bored you are.

I think you're preaching to the chior though. the OP came in here stating that he was bored of the GTR and wanted exactly what you are talking about

ImportConvert · 12-01-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

The shifts in a GTR with its dual clutch transmission is so much faster than what your friends mustang GT was, its a totally different animal. I'm a stick shift guy too, and i wouldn't get a car that doesn't come in stick (at least for right now) but honestly, go drive an F1 car or a lemans car, and tell me how bored you are.

I think you're preaching to the chior though. the OP came in here stating that he was bored of the GTR and wanted exactly what you are talking about

It's not the shift, it's the down-shift while the computer tries to figure out which gear is best once you matt the accelerator. The shift happens fast, the "thinking" is the slow part.

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Originally Posted by BennytheBlade

Lol.
Some of this doesn't seem appropriate on a forum dedicated to the best bang for ur buck sports car around, does it?

More on topic- while I thought all the technical stuff on the gtr was amazing, and offers some amazing track/driving abilities (the launch of the gtr almost had me sold right there) it does give a little insulation or disconnect from the driving experience as a whole... My limited experience of course.

You mean acceleration? The GT-R does not have a "launch" if you mean "launch control". That is a feature expressly used for getting the car out of mud or snow. Says so in the manual. Use it for anything else, and your warranty is void.

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

Yup been there since JManZ days... getting old HA!

The 370Z is definitely a fun project car. The biggest gripe for me is that it lacks punch under 3k RPM, so it doesn't "feel" fast. Beyond 3k it pulls all the way to redline. The 350Z, on the other hand, had great neck snapping low end response. It came alive around 4k RPM, but it did not pull as hard as the 370Z. Well... that's how I felt

I seriously debated skipping TT, selling everything, and look for an '02+ NSX because I wanted a more raw feeling. It's probably not the fastest, but it probably feels fast and is more fun to drive. I've never been in one so I can't say much. On the other hand, MC's GT-R is such a great deal as well for roughly the same price as a used NSX, but I would prefer to keep the manual gear box.

Keep your 370Z. I think the 370 is much faster, based on the NSX I stomped and what people tell me the 370Z can do. The NSX is old technology--VERY WELL thought-out, but old. Total collector item, though. Apples to oranges with the GT-R. If you want to compre something to the GT-R, you will have to check out a used GT2, which will still cost a lot more, or a used Z06, which doesn't have quite the attention to detail/theme.

BennytheBlade · 12-01-2010, 08:05 AM

Just the punch of awd and the great ability/adjustability of the car for 0-60 ( and just about everything else for that matter).

As for the warranty, I'm not worried about that on any car that isn't my DD.
Heck the salesman was the one who showed me how to turn it off. Granted he told me not to rev up and to take it ez but he was thinking about selling me the car at that point. Almost worked too.

ImportConvert · 12-01-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BennytheBlade

Just the punch of awd and the great ability/adjustability of the car for 0-60 ( and just about everything else for that matter).

As for the warranty, I'm not worried about that on any car that isn't my DD.
Heck the salesman was the one who showed me how to turn it off. Granted he told me not to rev up and to take it ez but he was thinking about selling me the car at that point. Almost worked too.

I suppose. I don't make enough $$ to replace a $20K transmission off the cuff, though, and I don't want my "fun" car sitting for the time it would take me to raise the $$ while I payed a note on a 2-tonne paper-weight.

BennytheBlade · 12-01-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I don't want my "fun" car sitting .

Absolutely.
I hope I'm not giving the impression that the gtr is the greatest thing on planet earth, I mean I did go w/ the Z. I was just particularly impressed w/ the launch/acceleration of the gtr from a dead stop.

Anyhow op, if this 370 turns out like your 350, I am really looking forward see what u do. Hope u keep us informed

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Reality · 12-01-2010, 08:29 AM

Can't wait to see how you transform her, Alex!
-I am looking at a blue one myself.. should have another z by spring..

Msn coming your way!

ImportConvert · 12-01-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Reality

Can't wait to see how you transform her, Alex!
-I am looking at a blue one myself.. should have another z by spring..

Msn coming your way!

+1, your 350 was the nicest I have seen!

HKYStormFront · 12-01-2010, 08:42 AM

alex, you can't sell your GTR before i get up there to shoot

bet some NAGTROC folk will jump all over your volks if you want to sell them. i understand that it's cheaper to daily drive a Z but seems to me that you will have almost as much in the Z as the GTR by the time you get it set up the way you want it... but it's your decision. either way, i'm sure if you get a Z it will be one of the best looking ones out there since your 350 certainly was

ThoriumHotdog · 12-01-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

You mean acceleration? The GT-R does not have a "launch" if you mean "launch control". That is a feature expressly used for getting the car out of mud or snow. Says so in the manual. Use it for anything else, and your warranty is void.

Come on man. You know exactly what he means and theres no reason to fish to get him to say it. If you had a GTR and didn't get "stuck in mud or snow" once in a while then you're not doing it right.

ImportConvert · 12-01-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

Come on man. You know exactly what he means and theres no reason to fish to get him to say it. If you had a GTR and didn't get "stuck in mud or snow" once in a while then you're not doing it right.

Which is why I refuse to buy one. I don't want to void my warranty doing something known to break $20K components. I want to buy a car I can drive without fear of that. I suspect most people do, but settle for the GT-R as it has other features they like and they take thier lumps if they break it.

ThoriumHotdog · 12-01-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Which is why I refuse to buy one. I don't want to void my warranty doing something known to break $20K components. I want to buy a car I can drive without fear of that. I suspect most people do, but settle for the GT-R as it has other features they like and they take thier lumps if they break it.

I'll have to browse the GTR forums to see if they break after a few launches like you suggest.

Jeffblue · 12-01-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog

I'll have to browse the GTR forums to see if they break after a few launches like you suggest.

that was an issue with 2009's only i believe.

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BennytheBlade Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville Posts: 180 Drives: 09 Black 370 NISMO Rep Power: 17	Just the punch of awd and the great ability/adjustability of the car for 0-60 ( and just about everything else for that matter). As for the warranty, I'm not worried about that on any car that isn't my DD. Heck the salesman was the one who showed me how to turn it off. Granted he told me not to rev up and to take it ez but he was thinking about selling me the car at that point. Almost worked too. __________________ Forged Specialties SC 6 Bronze 19x9.5 +22 19x10.5+12\|Hankook Evo 255/35/19 305/30/19 Berk HFC \| BM Short Shifter \|Stillen G3 Intake Last edited by BennytheBlade; 12-01-2010 at 08:10 AM.

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Reality Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 290 Drives: '06 PPW GT Rep Power: 18	Can't wait to see how you transform her, Alex! -I am looking at a blue one myself.. should have another z by spring.. Msn coming your way! __________________ //2005 35th SB #81 [tyra] SOLD //2006 GT PPW SOLD

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HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 54	alex, you can't sell your GTR before i get up there to shoot bet some NAGTROC folk will jump all over your volks if you want to sell them. i understand that it's cheaper to daily drive a Z but seems to me that you will have almost as much in the Z as the GTR by the time you get it set up the way you want it... but it's your decision. either way, i'm sure if you get a Z it will be one of the best looking ones out there since your 350 certainly was __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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