The body-kit is kindof shoddy I think, as well. I looked at one and wasn't impressed. I am sure there are much better made aftermarket options. The main thing the Nismo is getting you are the rims (@$5K if you purchase them separately...WOW! yes, I checked at a local dealership, buy some take-offs instead for sure!) and suspension. It's a stripped interior with only 4 speakers, and no NAV.

Almost every test I have seen shows very little improvement in any performance category with the Nismo, and many tests show it does various things worse than previously tested Touring/Sport models.

yea i'd say you'd end up replacing everything about it being a nismo if you got one. i'd just get a touring sport and go from there

well, no one in their right mind would spend 5k on factory wheels, even if they are the highest end factory wheels. you can get a set of practically ANY wheel out there for 5k. People are getting the nismo's used for like 2k.

the body kit is entirely personal preference. I think it looks cool. i have a sport package though and i like the understated look.

wow that's for your feedback guys. I won't be getting the Nismo.

what trim level/color do you want?

Ideally a 40th anniversary.

Since there is none left in Canada, I want a 2010 Black 6mt fully loaded.

Since there is none left in canada in the above specs with nav, I may have to either:

1) go with out nav and install aftermarket, or
2) go blue or gunmetal.

The dealership is now checking the inventory for blue or gunmetal for me and will call me back today or tomorrow.

I meant aside from appearance. The kit felt cheap. The fender-well liners in the rear weren't solidly attatched, it was just cheap. Looks are subjective of course, I meant regarding quality.

I agree, I simply meant that to option a Touring with the Nismo rims was not cost effective from the dealer. Even $2K is way overpriced for a factory set of rims that size imo.

IIRC, the 40th didn't have the NAV as an option, although I might be totally wrong?

Yeah given your past hx of modding, the nismo would be a waste of money
W/ the 40th you still get the cool factor of a limited/collector edition but aren't throwing money at stuff u will probably replace.

I personally like the color-scheme and that is the only way to get the red seats in a Z unless you find someone with a 40th who wants to swap you for some wierd reason. I love the color-scheme.

me too. That's the only reason I want the 40th...it's the color scheme. Worst case I can always stick a couple red Brides in there...

I still would love to do that...

Come on man. You know exactly what he means and theres no reason to fish to get him to say it. If you had a GTR and didn't get "stuck in mud or snow" once in a while then you're not doing it right.

:hello:

Which is why I refuse to buy one. I don't want to void my warranty doing something known to break $20K components. I want to buy a car I can drive without fear of that. I suspect most people do, but settle for the GT-R as it has other features they like and they take thier lumps if they break it.

Damn GTR is so lame, I roast them on highway rolls because their stupid automatics are hunting for gears. :rolleyes:

I love how everyone jumps on the GT-R bandwagon about voiding a warranty. Have any of you really done research on how many or why most of them were voided and what changes Nissan has done to improve on the transmission?

:roflpuke2:

I'll have to browse the GTR forums to see if they break after a few launches like you suggest.

that was an issue with 2009's only i believe.

Good to have another opinion on this. I knew it didn't sound right and definitely sounds like something they'd work out.

ok. Dealer called again. no blue nor gunmetal left of 2010's. All the 2011's here are all without nav...so I might as well jump on the 2010 black without nav and save myself $5k...

wasn't with 2009's. It's an issue with LC1. Most 2009's have been reflashed to LC2 or LC3 so "Launch Control" is all under warranty now.

You're going to find that the cubby in place of the nav is VERY useful, especially for a daily driver!

why don't you just order one? if your selling a car as awesome as the GTR, why not get exactly what you want? its winter now anyways. if you wait the 3 months, it will come just in time for spring.

Yep, especially when you put a screen in it. ;)

:facepalm:

ah, my mistake. 2009's were the only one's that came with LC1 though right? what exactly did they change in the software?

They lowered the rev-limiter to 2K rpm, from what I remember.

Go read your owner's manual. It clearly states that the warranty is void for any number of silly reasons. Dyno-testing the car, running it at ANY competative event, turning VDC off not in snow/mud, etc. etc. It's rediculous.

There is no such feature as launch control, and your owner's manual spells it out clearly. It is designed to un-stick the car from mud or snow. Not to "launch" the car. Nissan never called it launch control. People on the internet, and whatnot did and began using it as such and busting transmissions and so Nissan came out with all these disclaimers in their warranty. Again, go read the warranty disclaimer that came with the car. Turning VDC off voids trans-axle warranty.

Also, that transmission is hella expensive to maintain. $1500 fluid changes, etc. I know I know, "if you can afford the car". Well, sure, I could easily afford payments on a GT-R, but I wouldn't want to pay for $1500 worth of maintenance on a ruitine maintenance item. It's not like people who can afford a GT-R enjoy throwing away $1500 just because they can. I know operating costs are secondary, but I don't think they can be ignored, either. The GT-R is a high-maintenance item on top of having a finicky warranty.

http://www.nissanextendedwarranty.co...Nissan-GTR.pdf

Here, go read about all the extranious crap you have to have done if you want to keep your warranty. It's absurd. Transmission adjustments, frequent service intervals for such, etc. etc. etc.

Yes, the GT-R performs well on the track and is offered at an attractive price, but the paper-cut costs DO rack up.

they lowered it from 4500rpms to 3000rpms.

on paper, you're absolutely right. But in real life, that has been hardly the case.

this^^ 2012's are back up to 4000rpm i believe (?)

Didn't kenchan do a mod where his aftermarket GPS folded back into the cubby when not in use? Best of both worlds:tup: That is, unless you want that fabulous storage in the NAV system for your MP3s!

Yeah, Modshack made one then Kenchan came and made the JDM version. :icon17:

That storage cubby was so convenient, though. Within the first 10 minutes of driving my Mustang off of Lou Fusz's lot in STL I was like, "god damnit, where's the dash cubby?" :icon18:

On paper is what the dealership will refer to when you ask for a new $22K transmission + labor under warranty. They will pull the data from your PCM, and say "Oh...I see...did you read the insert that came in the car? it was right there on the passenger floorboard when you took delivery..."

I understand you might know someone, or have "an in", etc. etc. etc. but it's amazing how people back-track when $20K/their job is on the line. I wouldn't risk it.

The fact remains that there IS NO LAUNCH CONTROL. People are using a feature that was designed for one thing, as another. Nissan never stated otherwise, and that is why they are voiding the warranty. It would be like using the drive-shaft in a mustang as a winch to pull your 4-wheeler out of the mud or something. Of course it won't be warrantied. They don't warranty a car when you do "neutral drops" with a regular automatic, why should they warranty the GT-R when you do something similar?

Buy an iPhone.
Place it in Cubby.

You now have a GPS that fits in the cubby, is removable for use in other vehicles, and will tell you how much horsepower your car is making with the right app. End of quandry.

Where put Oakley's then?:confused::icon17:

Pretty much, it won't do "skip-gear" downshifts like most DCT's or even the slush-box in an A6 vette. It has to go down through each and every gear above the gear it needs before it gets there. It won't just hop to it. Huge downside, unless of course you hardcore guys like rolling around in 4th all the time, lol.

This doesn't hurt so much on the track, but in daily driving when you want to punch it on the freeway, I can imagine it would get very frustrating.

On your face.

you dont know what your talking about every year GTR has has its own revised version of Launch control you can use under full warranty with VDC in R mode


here are the facts...

2009 LC1 VDC off "original Launch control" Was a warranty issue...0-60 3.2 secs
2009 ( all owners who wanted it received TCM update to 2010 spec LC2 ) 0-60 3.5 secs
2010 LC2 3K rpm launch Manual or automode any set up switch 0-60 3.5 secs
2011 LC3 3.3k RPM launch Manual mode RRR only 0-60 3.3 secs
2012 LC4 3.5-4K RPM Manual mode RRR only 0-60 2.9 secs ( nissan released a official press release and a video that shows the car being held to 4K rpm and launched with VDC on)


im not even going to address the its automatic your pretend to drive as a manaul comment.... or the GTR drives itself comment... take it a track at 150mph and see how well it drives itself