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Originally Posted by rebe945 Now. Bonzo, I re-read the thread and found one post who mentioned he had a buddy use a homeowners product on his RX8. Had a problem

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Now. Bonzo, I re-read the thread and found one post who mentioned he had a buddy use a homeowners product on his RX8. Had a problem with smell and melting. He didnt say it was Frost King. Frost King is meant to insulate and dampen vibrations on metalized ductwork that transfers heat to your home's rooms. Wasnt trying to be cheap. After seeing Dynamat , Frost King is thicker, so I chose it instead. Money wasnt a factor. Shyt, Id spend anything to satisfy myself with my car . I will monitor the product and let Evil and others know who may use it. By the way, My wheels and tires are on the way and should have them on late next week. Thats why I did this. The base 18s are said to be quieter than the larger 19s. My tires will be 255/295s Hankooks V12s. Ill report back on the issue of noise after the install.
This thread is so friggin' long it's hard to remember who is saying what. As it turns out, it was YOU who mentioned Frost King, way back in February. So it was me who's mistaken. However, I think where it got me is that you've posted the same info many times over, and each time it sort of sounds like your mentioning it for the first time. Almost like you are trying to sell it or something. It also made it sort of appear like multiple people were posting it up, when in reality it was just you posting again. So my bad. But anyway, it appears you and Evil Sports are the 2 who have tried it and I guess we'll see about how it holds up. I really REALLY hope you are right and it's a different product than what scottIN mentioned, because that would suck.

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I find it hard to believe Frost king would fail like that since its primarily associated with High temp heat ducts. Not worried at this point.
High temp heat ducts? Just wondering what you are referring to? Certainly in-home ducting can not be considered high temp? I mean the inside of cars can get really hot, much hotter than the air a furnace blows through the ducts.

I sincerely hope you guys are right, and it would certainly go to show that the specialized material companies are just making more profit for a name.

I for one was just not willing to take that chance.
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Yea, it was me mentioning it. Simply to inform of progress. I'll be monitoring during the hot weather and post back. Ever try touching your ductwork at the furnace area during the on cycle. Its hot.
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Yea, it was me mentioning it. Simply to inform of progress. I'll be monitoring during the hot weather and post back.
That will be great for folks getting cars this fall. Could same them some coin for sure.

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Can't say I make a habit of it no, but I have a heat pump system with the unit outside and an air handler inside. It does not get what I would call hot. Not nearly like a sun baked car

Companies doing this sort of thing doesn't surprise me at all; making a product, and selling it under different brands for different prices. I wouldn't be surprised if Dynamat (and the like) is made by the same people as Frost King, and is very similar if not exactly the same material. For example, back in the 90's I did a bunch of work with Schering Plough, who make Coppertone. The plain white 45 SPF bottle would cost $4.00, while the same sized bottle of 45 SPF Waterbabies would cost $7.00 (just using rough figures of course). Guess what was different about the lotion.....NOTHING, they were the same sun tan lotion, exactly the same. Only the bottle itself was different. They literally went down the same filling station line. According to my nephew there are actually only 3 or 4 makers of clear bra material, but if you shop around there are lots and lots of brands. For example, 3M actually makes a lot of them, but just changes the printing on the back liner to accommodate different names. They are actually all the same. My old boss used to do a lot of work with a pasta making company. According to him, every box of U.S. made dried pasta (like spaghetti etc) comes from the same company. There were SLIGHT differences in the pasta, but for all the 100 brands out there across the country, there were only like 5 pasta ingredient versions. I don't have exact figures on all this, so please no one jump on this with great detail. I'm just making a point that manufacturers do this all the time.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for you that Frost King is not the same stuff scottIN's friend used.

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Since it seems I started the whole vehicle / home thing using my buddy Steve an the example I'll chime in...

I have 100% no idea how Frost King performs. I don't know what brand he used in his car, just know that it was from a home improvement store & he did it because it was cheaper. I do know that whatever it was completely F'd his car.

I hope it works well for those who have used it. I wouldn't wish the mess he had on anyone.

Can we now return to our regularly scheduled program of what works and what doesn't?

I'd like to hear more about undercoating the wheel wells and any particular brands / methods that work well. The pebble noise - especially at low speed- is my only real complaint.
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I'd like to hear more about undercoating the wheel wells and any particular brands / methods that work well. The pebble noise - especially at low speed- is my only real complaint.
100%.

The place I got my mat from is called FatMat. They have a paint product that goes on blue and drys black, so you can see where you put it. You can brush and even roller it on (which I think would work great like painting walls in a house). Taint cheap though, at least not for paint. I think it was like $80 for a gallon. But I'm thinking with that gallon you might be able to get at least 2 if not 3 coats in each rear wheel well. I'm thinking that's the ultimate fix for our pebble rock noise issue. Although I must say the FatMat did at least turn the plinking into thunking, so it is better.

Here's a link to FatMat's stuff called Liquid Body Armor. I'm going to do more searching, but this is a start.
http://www.fatmat.com/liquid/gallon.html
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