Cabin noise

ChipsWithDips · 09-27-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think the beef is that it's not "good noise", ie, engine or exhaust. It actually downs out many decent exhaust setups.

Never bothered me, coming from a roadster, but leaving the car, I don't miss the white noise.

Exactly. I'd rather my engine be louder than my tires. I'm not talking WOT, but pretty much anytime you are maintaining a constant speed on a road or highway, the tires are significantly louder than the engine. I'm used to shifting by ear and I often find my self forgetting to upshift since I can't even hear that my engine is cruising at 4k rpms. Though I'm sure this won't be an issue as soon as I put an exhaust put on this thing.

For that reason, the road noise kinda gets to me at times, but never so bad that I would add a bunch of dampening mats to the car(though I can certainly understand people that choose to do that). I plan to try to lighten my car as much as reasonably possible for a daily driver as I continue to modify my car, so that kinda goes against my philosophy.

wheee! · 09-27-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips

Exactly. I'd rather my engine be louder than my tires. I'm not talking WOT, but pretty much anytime you are maintaining a constant speed on a road or highway, the tires are significantly louder than the engine. I'm used to shifting by ear and I often find my self forgetting to upshift since I can't even hear that my engine is cruising at 4k rpms. Though I'm sure this won't be an issue as soon as I put an exhaust put on this thing.

For that reason, the road noise kinda gets to me at times, but never so bad that I would add a bunch of dampening mats to the car(though I can certainly understand people that choose to do that). I plan to try to lighten my car as much as reasonably possible for a daily driver as I continue to modify my car, so that kinda goes against my philosophy.

hmmm. Not a problem with the HKS exhaust and the Berk's!

wheee! · 09-27-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad

I think a lot of the "cabin noise" controversy arrises from the intent of the driver. If you want an aggressive sports car that reinforces the sports car experience with every turn of the wheel the stock Z is your ticket. If you want a car that expresses it's aggressive side "on demand" a little sound deadener goes a long way.

I agree. I drive a Lincoln MKX (dd) with lots of sound deadening from the factory and it puts me to sleep....

The 370 makes me feel like a part of the car, that I am there to drive, not be driven!

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-27-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad

I think a lot of the "cabin noise" controversy arrises from the intent of the driver. If you want an aggressive sports car that reinforces the sports car experience with every turn of the wheel the stock Z is your ticket. If you want a car that expresses it's aggressive side "on demand" a little sound deadener goes a long way.

Good point.

My first Z was silver by the way. Beautiful color. Polymer waxes really make the color stand out a lot. After a wash and wax my silver baby (Zenobia) would shine so bright, I couldn't look directly at her from 12-5pm. Lol

GM's shine is pretty rugged. But silver was killer.

Sorry to go off topic. Just made a mention.

RiCharlie · 09-27-2011, 08:14 AM

I was surprised to find no sound deadening at all in the doors.. I did the hatch and got limited dampening....but the doors made the big difference.

Its fine now but I really, really like quiet in the car as I go on long drives and sometimes my wife or I want to nap in the passenger seat..so when the tires wear out I am switching to Continental Extreme contacts..i have asked enough people and there seems to be good reason to believe these will also reduce the noise..

I really have come to believe that Nissan did not add sound dampening because they want to differentiate this car from the G35 and G 37 and cabin noise is one of the ways...

birdmanx1 · 09-27-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

I was surprised to find no sound deadening at all in the doors.. I did the hatch and got limited dampening....but the doors made the big difference.

Its fine now but I really, really like quiet in the car as I go on long drives and sometimes my wife or I want to nap in the passenger seat..so when the tires wear out I am switching to Continental Extreme contacts..i have asked enough people and there seems to be good reason to believe these will also reduce the noise..

I really have come to believe that Nissan did not add sound dampening because they want to differentiate this car from the G35 and G 37 and cabin noise is one of the ways...

I had positive results from doing the door & trunk area; there would have been even better results from doing the floor too but I didn't feel it was necessary.

Are you going to lose a bit on the performance side going with the continental Extreme contact? I have a set of Continental (not sure if it's the extreme ones) on my Altima and they do last a very long time.

RiCharlie · 09-28-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

Its fine now but I really, really like quiet in the car as I go on long drives and sometimes my wife or I want to nap in the passenger seat..so when the tires wear out I am switching to Continental Extreme contacts..i have asked enough people and there seems to be good reason to believe these will also reduce the noise..

I was reading my own post and had to laugh at myself...who else buys a sports car and then posts about wanting to take a nap in it!

LunaZ · 09-28-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

I was reading my own post and had to laugh at myself...who else buys a sports car and then posts about wanting to take a nap in it!

I can see the commercial now... The new Nissan 370ZZZZzzzzzzz: The anti-andrenaline machine for thrill-avoiders who want to slow down their heart rate. (shhhhh.)

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-28-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

I can see the commercial now... The new Nissan 370ZZZZzzzzzzz: The anti-andrenaline machine for thrill-avoiders who want to slow down their heart rate. (shhhhh.)

The new ZZZzzzzz with cadillac suspension, ultra quiet lexus exhaust 300lbs of damping and a new even quieter model. The 370zzzz E.(lectric)

Guard Dad · 09-28-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The new ZZZzzzzz with cadillac suspension, ultra quiet lexus exhaust 300lbs of damping and a new even quieter model. The 370zzzz E.(lectric)

My first car was a '65 Mustang that my Dad purchased new in May of '64. The tuner market wasn't as mature then as it is now but I still did a LOT* of stuff to that car but the one thing I never did was add sound deadener. Fast forward 44 "short years" and I'm adding sound deadener, bad things CAN happen to good people!

That car was so loud (the headaches started at 45 minutes but the first 44 minutes and 59 seconds were heaven) that when I came home late I would cut the engine a 1/2 block away and coast up to our house, good times!

shadoquad · 09-27-2011, 08:26 AM

I've noticed that tire condition and road type play a huge factor in cabin noise.

I recently replaced my rear tires. The car is a lot quieter.

While driving to/from Z Nationals in 2theextreme's car, there was a stretch of highway 20 where the road has an extremely rough surface. You can barely hear the passenger talking.

I'll likely never address the noise issue in my Z, but I can certainly see where people are coming from.

wheee! · 09-28-2011, 01:25 PM

I really don't understand peoples dissatisfaction with the noise level.... I drove the BMW Z4 at the time I was deciding on which car to buy and the main reason I didn't choose it over the Z was it was TOO refined and quiet for my tastes.... and I am 44.

That being said, the Z was not TOO noisy, but had the right amount of character in its voice to make me feel that I was in a real sports car.

The addition of Berk's, HKS and intakes made the real difference and now I am thrilled to start the engine let alone cruise the highways or city streets.... I really do Love the sound of my car!

gurneyeagle · 09-28-2011, 01:55 PM

Having come from a G37S Coupe, the Z is definitely louder inside than the G, BUT is so much sharper (for lack of a better term) in terms of steering feel and handling, that it's no contest for me. Easy trade-off.

The only issue I have with cabin noise is when I try to talk (via bluetooth) on the phone at highway speeds (70+ mph). I have trouble hearing. Maybe it's just my 53 year-old ears finally starting to fade.

For me, the noise is all part of the experience.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-28-2011, 02:52 PM

I RESPECT ANY PERSONAL MOD, no matter what it is. I just hate that NISSAN feels they have GT up the Z because americans can't appreciate TRUE JDM. If you expected the Z to be BMW like? Get a bimmer!!!
If you want 450 V8 horses... get a bloody stang or camaro. But don't buy a Z and say..
I wish I had trunk release. Buy a G37
I wish it was quieter. Buy a G37
I wish it had a V8. Jdm sports cars never been v8. Wish for FI, not a v8.
I wish the tires weren't so noisy. Buy new tires

When I wish for something its. A warranteed oil cooler, a brake cooling slot intergrated into the body or internals, FI model or eventually DCT like the GTR. These types of wants are conducive to JDM culture. Respect the culture. Its like the camaro in 4cyl. Hahahahaha... what a joke. Does anyone remember during pre-production of the camaro that chevy was talking about a 3650lb 250hp turbp 4. Hahahahahaaaaa. A turbo 4 in a camaro is like tits on a bull.

MOD what you like just don't make complaints to nissan that aren't condusive to jdm culture. I rather nissan stop making the Z in the US if its like that?

RiCharlie · 09-30-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I RESPECT ANY PERSONAL MOD, no matter what it is. I just hate that NISSAN feels they have GT up the Z because americans can't appreciate TRUE JDM. If you expected the Z to be BMW like? Get a bimmer!!!
If you want 450 V8 horses... get a bloody stang or camaro. But don't buy a Z and say..
I wish I had trunk release. Buy a G37
I wish it was quieter. Buy a G37
I wish it had a V8. Jdm sports cars never been v8. Wish for FI, not a v8.
I wish the tires weren't so noisy. Buy new tires

When I wish for something its. A warranteed oil cooler, a brake cooling slot intergrated into the body or internals, FI model or eventually DCT like the GTR. These types of wants are conducive to JDM culture. Respect the culture. Its like the camaro in 4cyl. Hahahahaha... what a joke. Does anyone remember during pre-production of the camaro that chevy was talking about a 3650lb 250hp turbp 4. Hahahahahaaaaa. A turbo 4 in a camaro is like tits on a bull.

MOD what you like just don't make complaints to nissan that aren't condusive to jdm culture. I rather nissan stop making the Z in the US if its like that?

What is JMD and what is MOD?

09-28-2011, 01:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 59 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40183	I really don't understand peoples dissatisfaction with the noise level.... I drove the BMW Z4 at the time I was deciding on which car to buy and the main reason I didn't choose it over the Z was it was TOO refined and quiet for my tastes.... and I am 44. That being said, the Z was not TOO noisy, but had the right amount of character in its voice to make me feel that I was in a real sports car. The addition of Berk's, HKS and intakes made the real difference and now I am thrilled to start the engine let alone cruise the highways or city streets.... I really do Love the sound of my car! __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

09-28-2011, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
gurneyeagle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston/Saint Augustine Posts: 2,681 Drives: '18 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 20216	Having come from a G37S Coupe, the Z is definitely louder inside than the G, BUT is so much sharper (for lack of a better term) in terms of steering feel and handling, that it's no contest for me. Easy trade-off. The only issue I have with cabin noise is when I try to talk (via bluetooth) on the phone at highway speeds (70+ mph). I have trouble hearing. Maybe it's just my 53 year-old ears finally starting to fade. For me, the noise is all part of the experience. __________________ Waiting on the Z35! SOLD - 2011 Gun Metallic Touring 7AT w Sports Pkg & Nav, Nismo Bumper and Rims, RC Grille, RC Brake Ducts, H&R Spacers, Painted Door Hdls, GTR Start Button, Nav By-Pass, EVO R Fog Light, CF Ducktail, CF Interior Trim

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RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 17	I was surprised to find no sound deadening at all in the doors.. I did the hatch and got limited dampening....but the doors made the big difference. Its fine now but I really, really like quiet in the car as I go on long drives and sometimes my wife or I want to nap in the passenger seat..so when the tires wear out I am switching to Continental Extreme contacts..i have asked enough people and there seems to be good reason to believe these will also reduce the noise.. I really have come to believe that Nissan did not add sound dampening because they want to differentiate this car from the G35 and G 37 and cabin noise is one of the ways...

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	I've noticed that tire condition and road type play a huge factor in cabin noise. I recently replaced my rear tires. The car is a lot quieter. While driving to/from Z Nationals in 2theextreme's car, there was a stretch of highway 20 where the road has an extremely rough surface. You can barely hear the passenger talking. I'll likely never address the noise issue in my Z, but I can certainly see where people are coming from.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	I RESPECT ANY PERSONAL MOD, no matter what it is. I just hate that NISSAN feels they have GT up the Z because americans can't appreciate TRUE JDM. If you expected the Z to be BMW like? Get a bimmer!!! If you want 450 V8 horses... get a bloody stang or camaro. But don't buy a Z and say.. I wish I had trunk release. Buy a G37 I wish it was quieter. Buy a G37 I wish it had a V8. Jdm sports cars never been v8. Wish for FI, not a v8. I wish the tires weren't so noisy. Buy new tires When I wish for something its. A warranteed oil cooler, a brake cooling slot intergrated into the body or internals, FI model or eventually DCT like the GTR. These types of wants are conducive to JDM culture. Respect the culture. Its like the camaro in 4cyl. Hahahahaha... what a joke. Does anyone remember during pre-production of the camaro that chevy was talking about a 3650lb 250hp turbp 4. Hahahahahaaaaa. A turbo 4 in a camaro is like tits on a bull. MOD what you like just don't make complaints to nissan that aren't condusive to jdm culture. I rather nissan stop making the Z in the US if its like that?