Nissan 370Z Forum  

So how is everyone pleased with their Z performance wise?

Originally Posted by Endgame I disagree some with your comment. 1. My Z does not creak at all. The 350 creaked, but not this car. 2. The Stang and the

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #91 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endgame View Post
I disagree some with your comment.

1. My Z does not creak at all. The 350 creaked, but not this car.
2. The Stang and the Z06 are both as loud as the Z IMO.

The US automakers have had to step it up to remain competitive, but rest assured, cuts were made somewhere. It is just a matter of time before those Accountant cuts start to come to light.

To that point, you are 115% correct. The best car on paper is not always the best car for you. Go drive them and make the decision.

BTW, I read a technical article on the VQ37VHR and WOW, the is a lot of technoloy in that engine. Much more than the new Coyote 5.0 or Z06 engine. I also understand why the Z's engine is loud. In the same way the Honda engines go insane (in great way) when VTEC kicks in, the Z's engine goes insane when the VVEL goes into full effect at about 5000 RPM.
They did cut costs. The new mustang uses a lot the design that the '05 did. The 'vette remains majorly unchanged since '05, and Dodge. Well, I don't feel like talking about them, Chrysler stuff usually is sub-par in most "quality" categories, and the one car that wasn't, died this year.

Nissan spent money re-doing their car. Ford and GM just spent a little money re-vamping the old, except for Ford's Coyote engine, which is just the 5.0 "cammer" plus a few tweaks that has been around for over a decade.

Yes the Nissan engine has more technology. Yay for it. It also makes the least power of the 6.2L or the 5.0L, gets worse gas mileage, and isn't any more reliable than its competators.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 12:22 PM   #92 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 95
Drives: 2011 GS Corvette
Rep Power: 15
Mag350Z is on a distinguished road
Default

the Z06 is in a completely different category than any Z or Mustang, including the GT 500 which almost weighs 2 tons
Mag350Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 12:32 PM   #93 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mag350Z View Post
the Z06 is in a completely different category than any Z or Mustang, including the GT 500 which almost weighs 2 tons
Used Z06's are the same price as new 370's, and most are garage queens. This makes them a consideration I think.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 12:59 PM   #94 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 95
Drives: 2011 GS Corvette
Rep Power: 15
Mag350Z is on a distinguished road
Default

i meant performance wise
honestly if anyone could get a C6 Z06 in good condition for the price of a Z or Mustang, it seems to me like an obvious choice
the car weighs around 3100 lbs and has over 500HP
Mag350Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 01:18 PM   #95 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ImportConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SWMO
Posts: 4,454
Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve
Rep Power: 7626
ImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond reputeImportConvert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mag350Z View Post
i meant performance wise
honestly if anyone could get a C6 Z06 in good condition for the price of a Z or Mustang, it seems to me like an obvious choice
the car weighs around 3100 lbs and has over 500HP
They are there for the taking. People just don't think about that kind of stuff. I know when I was in college, I had a ram-air Trans Am. Even teachers said snide things about "my expensive car" when I complained that books ran what they did. In truth, the girls with the civic's and base mustangs paid more for their ride than I did. Got the car in great shape for $12K. People thought I paid a lot more. I have found that most are not interested in, or even understand, how to "get a deal" and just take everything at face-value. My former roommate had a loaded out '04 C5. He hit the same steriotype. Car cost $24K--about what a used Accord a year or two old ran if it had any decent options.
ImportConvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 01:23 PM   #96 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
m4a1mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 55,385
Drives: on two wheels
Rep Power: 6962
m4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endgame View Post
I disagree some with your comment.

1. My Z does not creak at all. The 350 creaked, but not this car.
2. The Stang and the Z06 are both as loud as the Z IMO.
As I've lived with both let me tell you that both the Z and Mustang have their creaks and squeaks and bumps. My Z had some really annoying hatch rattle, passenger door rattle, and ECU whine. So far the Mustang only has a little rattle from the rear over bumps.

Stock for stock the Mustang is MUCH quieter than the Z. There is a lot of sound deadening built in. So much, in fact, that they had to use some silly sound-tube contraption to pump engine noise into the cabin.

I'm not saying this is a plus/minus... just stating that, stock, this thing is almost as quiet as a Lexus.
__________________
- Steve
MAZOC Meet Thread
Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!)
LIKE us on Facebook!
m4a1mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 02:33 PM   #97 (permalink)
Base Member
 
SeattleLion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle WA
Posts: 226
Drives: '13 Mustang GT Prem.
Rep Power: 233
SeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond reputeSeattleLion has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think it is a little odd to talk about sports cars in terms of 0-60. It could be just the way times are changing. I certainly had no interest in drag race quarter miles when I went Z shopping. Of course I don't track the car. In my view the Z excels in:
  1. Plenty of power to accelerate in spirited driving.
  2. Wonderful handling at any speed I dare drive (so far that is 110mph)
  3. Easy and forgiving in evasive moves. An 18 wheeler didn't see me in the left lane and nearly ran me over. But the Z responded instantly to an 80mph hard left to the shoulder.
  4. Lots of fun to drive.
I wouldn't add any power bolt-on's. It's fine for me as is. I did add a backup cam, SS brake lines and DOT 5.1 fluid, and a very good radar detector.
SeattleLion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 02:37 PM   #98 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
370zproject's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Memphis
Age: 34
Posts: 16,104
Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue
Rep Power: 52
370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute370zproject has a reputation beyond repute
Default

to much power makes a car less reliable... my bro learned that the hard way... i came from a corrolla so im just fine with the Z plus its just dam sexy
__________________

Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors
370zproject is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 02:40 PM   #99 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
m4a1mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 55,385
Drives: on two wheels
Rep Power: 6962
m4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Bottom line is drive whatever makes you happy. I don't care if that means you must drive a Prius.
__________________
- Steve
MAZOC Meet Thread
Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!)
LIKE us on Facebook!
m4a1mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 02:49 PM   #100 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 90090
Posts: 1,851
Drives: Force Fed Nismo
Rep Power: 183
wishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond reputewishihadnav has a reputation beyond repute
Default

i like the prius.
wishihadnav is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 03:35 PM   #101 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
waaaasabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York City
Posts: 491
Drives: '10 Civic (FG1) 5AT
Rep Power: 17
waaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endgame View Post
BTW, I read a technical article on the VQ37VHR and WOW, the is a lot of technoloy in that engine. Much more than the new Coyote 5.0 or Z06 engine. I also understand why the Z's engine is loud. In the same way the Honda engines go insane (in great way) when VTEC kicks in, the Z's engine goes insane when the VVEL goes into full effect at about 5000 RPM.
Hey if you don't mind, could you please share the article (if its on digits)? I love reading those sorts of things.
__________________
That's SOOOO not Raven!
waaaasabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 05:31 PM   #102 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,134
Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav
Rep Power: 16
wilsonp will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by waaaasabi View Post
Hey if you don't mind, could you please share the article (if its on digits)? I love reading those sorts of things.
A quick Google finds:
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/DOCU...0713VVEL-e.pdf

I also read this article and watched the Nissan animated presentations:
Nissans 370Z VQ37VHR

NISSAN | TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES | Overview | VVEL (Variable Valve Event and Lift system)

And, after seeing all that, I decided I definitely needed an extended warranty for the 370Z
__________________
2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black
Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon
Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

Last edited by wilsonp; 10-27-2010 at 05:33 PM.
wilsonp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 06:16 PM   #103 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Phoenix AZ
Posts: 112
Drives: 03 G35 black 5AT
Rep Power: 15
ninous26 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert View Post
Used Z06's are the same price as new 370's, and most are garage queens. This makes them a consideration I think.
This.


Also thank you for those links to autotrader with those Z06's.. Very cheap, too bad AZ prices aren't that good :/ I may have to go out of state for one.

Nissans VHR engine is unique.. I have a feeling once VVEL is cracked the car will see some big power.
ninous26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 07:15 PM   #104 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Endgame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 1,613
Drives: Nothing Now!
Rep Power: 223
Endgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by waaaasabi View Post
Hey if you don't mind, could you please share the article (if its on digits)? I love reading those sorts of things.
I will see if I can find it and will definately post it.

M4A1 - Wow, my Z has none of those creeks yours did and is definitely more quiet than the Stangs. Interesting.

And Import Convert - I think we should just agree to disagree on a few of your points... I think what Nissan did with a V6 is outstanding. Look at BMW, they could not get any more from their I6 in the M3 and had to go to the 8. Nissan's work if outstanding.

In the end, get what makes you happy. And stay out of Canada Import Convert! lol.

Last edited by Endgame; 10-27-2010 at 07:25 PM.
Endgame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 07:22 PM   #105 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Endgame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 1,613
Drives: Nothing Now!
Rep Power: 223
Endgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond reputeEndgame has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mag350Z View Post
i meant performance wise
honestly if anyone could get a C6 Z06 in good condition for the price of a Z or Mustang, it seems to me like an obvious choice
the car weighs around 3100 lbs and has over 500HP

But just keep in mind the Z06 is the most difficult to drive of the 3....
Endgame is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wise man theDreamer The Lounge (Off Topic) 15 07-02-2010 09:00 AM
In order of importance...accessory-wise Emotiongear Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 5 06-17-2010 04:34 PM
Pleased to Meet You! CaptainSlow New Forum Member 0 04-27-2010 12:56 AM
A word to the wise when signing papers... Hi-TecDesigns Nissan 370Z Pricing / Ordering Discussions 2 08-04-2009 03:24 PM
I'm pleased to announce www.The370Z.net AK370Z Announcements 6 01-03-2009 03:11 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2