VDC...off?

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 12:14 AM

When you turn VDC off in the Z, is it hard to control? Does it have nasty tendancies to whip the rear to one side or the other on the 2-3 shift or something?

I know the "VDC off" thing is a joke regarding the GT-R, but have seen it talked about a lot. Joke, or serious?

memorylasts · 10-04-2010, 12:29 AM

It is the same just dont do anything stupid with the car until you fully understand the dynamics of it...

I DD with it off, it just annoys me, what can i say. With that being said it also took me a while to understand what the car will let you get away with. If you push to hard odds are you will spin/wreck, so just figure out the car and go from there.

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by memorylasts

It is the same just dont do anything stupid with the car until you fully understand the dynamics of it...

I DD with it off, it just annoys me, what can i say. With that being said it also took me a while to understand what the car will let you get away with. If you push to hard odds are you will spin/wreck, so just figure out the car and go from there.

I have always driven RWD V8 cars (until recently). The only trouble I ever had was in the rain. Is the 370Z rotation-happy? My 5.0 would burn them off in the first 3 gears, but it did so in a straight line. My last 2 F-bodies kicked about 1 foot to the left, and then pulled. You just had to twitch the wheel with the kick and you were fine. It was instinctive. 370Z similar?

alexanderb · 10-04-2010, 01:06 AM

Does the 7AT also behave the same as a 6MT with VDC off i.e wheelspin etc? I've never had the guts to turn it off

memorylasts · 10-04-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

Does the 7AT also behave the same as a 6MT with VDC off i.e wheelspin etc? I've never had the guts to turn it off

I am not sure what the exact difference would be other then some delay, I dont have the AT, so just shut it off dont drive like as idiot. if you traction light comes on when your driving and you know why it went off then go ahead try it, IF YOU DONT KNOW WHY THEN LEAVE IT ON, the car is not going to snap around if you drive within your own personal limits of the car which ever fills the skill set at the lowest pick just to get used to it.

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU GET INTO A WRECK, DRIVE RECKLESS, ENDANGER OF ANY LIVES...ETC IF YOU **** UP IT IS ON YOU

CrownR426 · 10-04-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

Does the 7AT also behave the same as a 6MT with VDC off i.e wheelspin etc? I've never had the guts to turn it off

OMG...
If you have not been driving without VDC you do not know the true power of the Z. LOL!
I do not recommend you doing this near others because you probably do not know how to control your car once u get fish tailing.
But just know that if you don not catch yourself you are done.
If you are drag racing you always take it off.

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

OMG...
If you have not been driving without VDC you do not know the true power of the Z. LOL!
I do not recommend you doing this near others because you probably do not know how to control your car once u get fish tailing.
But just know that if you don not catch yourself you are done.
If you are drag racing you always take it off.

Does VDC really kill the car that much? The only car I had with any kind of traction control were my two Trans Ams. It did nothing unless the tires spun, and even with 300rwhp/300rwtq, that didn't happen on good pavement even on hard 1-2 shifts. Do Z's have traction issues? I understand the springs in the rear are pretty stiff, so I figure maybe they are prone to being snappy on shifts?

CrownR426 · 10-04-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Does VDC really kill the car that much? The only car I had with any kind of traction control were my two Trans Ams. It did nothing unless the tires spun, and even with 300rwhp/300rwtq, that didn't happen on good pavement even on hard 1-2 shifts. Do Z's have traction issues? I understand the springs in the rear are pretty stiff, so I figure maybe they are prone to being snappy on shifts?

Yes, a huge difference!

halogodx · 10-04-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb

Does the 7AT also behave the same as a 6MT with VDC off i.e wheelspin etc? I've never had the guts to turn it off

I drive with the VDC on when i'm regular driving, has saved me from multiple spin outs....

I turn it off at the track or on empty roads to admire the power of the 370z.... I will warn you tho, start off slow and don't gun it your first time with the VDC off because its got enough power to make u go sideways all the way through 2nd gear...... I know because i did it my first time in mistake lol...... BUT IF YOU TURN IT OFF FOR REGULAR DRIVING PLEASE DON'T COME AND COMPLAIN AND LOOK FOR SYMPATHY WHEN YOU HIT SOMETHING......

TrackRat · 10-04-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by halogodx

I drive with the VDC on when i'm regular driving, has saved me from multiple spin outs....

You probably shouldn't EVER turn it off if you have had multiple near spin outs during regular driving... Sign yourself up for a BMW High Performance Driving Event and learn some car control so you can really enjoy that car.

ZedZed · 10-04-2010, 03:06 AM

I really don't understand why one would want to turn VDC off other than racing on a track, it really baffles me.

Anyway, please post some pix of your crashed Z with VDC off (that's if you survived the crash of course), we sure love seeing those.

ImportConvert · 10-04-2010, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

I really don't understand why one would want to turn VDC off other than racing on a track, it really baffles me.

Anyway, please post some pix of your crashed Z with VDC off (that's if you survived the crash of course), we sure love seeing those.

I don't understand why you would turn it off, either, but it's not like you're driving a Viper. A stock 370 is well within most people's ability to man-handle. The nanny is just nice when unexpected hazards present themselves.

ZedZed · 10-04-2010, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

A stock 370 is well within most people's ability to man-handle.

With VDC on I agree, but with it off it's another matter.

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VDC is a bit like wearing a rubber whilst having sex with a new partner, it's less fun for sure but it's also much less risky. Take it off and you'll have one heck of a good time but you might suffer the consequences. Is it worth it? You're better off getting to know your partner before moving to the next step.

Anyway, this subject has been flogged to death in previous posts, I don't think I'll contribute anything worthwhile.

alexanderb · 10-04-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

With VDC on I agree, but with it off it's another matter.

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VDC is a bit like wearing a rubber whilst having sex with a new partner, it's less fun for sure but it's also much less risky. Take it off and you'll have one heck of a good time but you might suffer the consequences. Is it worth it? You're better off getting to know your partner before moving to the next step.

Anyway, this subject has been flogged to death in previous posts, I don't think I'll contribute anything worthwhile.

Very good analogy! Rep for you!

fullmonty · 10-04-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZedZed

With VDC on I agree, but with it off it's another matter.

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VDC is a bit like wearing a rubber whilst having sex with a new partner, it's less fun for sure but it's also much less risky. Take it off and you'll have one heck of a good time but you might suffer the consequences. Is it worth it? You're better off getting to know your partner before moving to the next step.

Anyway, this subject has been flogged to death in previous posts, I don't think I'll contribute anything worthwhile.

Couldn't of been said better +1

10-04-2010, 12:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7626	VDC...off? When you turn VDC off in the Z, is it hard to control? Does it have nasty tendancies to whip the rear to one side or the other on the 2-3 shift or something? I know the "VDC off" thing is a joke regarding the GT-R, but have seen it talked about a lot. Joke, or serious?

10-04-2010, 12:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
memorylasts A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,125 Drives: Cars... Rep Power: 17	It is the same just dont do anything stupid with the car until you fully understand the dynamics of it... I DD with it off, it just annoys me, what can i say. With that being said it also took me a while to understand what the car will let you get away with. If you push to hard odds are you will spin/wreck, so just figure out the car and go from there. __________________ somewhat-journal-thingy

10-04-2010, 01:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
alexanderb Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila Posts: 170 Drives: PG 370 Tour/Sprt/Nav Rep Power: 270	Does the 7AT also behave the same as a 6MT with VDC off i.e wheelspin etc? I've never had the guts to turn it off

10-04-2010, 03:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
ZedZed Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Belgium, Brussels Posts: 237 Drives: nothing Rep Power: 15	I really don't understand why one would want to turn VDC off other than racing on a track, it really baffles me. Anyway, please post some pix of your crashed Z with VDC off (that's if you survived the crash of course), we sure love seeing those.