Z vs Gen.

Red370

might wanna look elsewhere, because it doesnt come close to fitting the bill for fast, 2.0 or 3.8. It may be fun, but thats subjective. If you want something fast and cheap and would have room in the back for a soccer team and groceries, look into a mazdaspeed 3.

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UNKNOWN_370

The only comparos people have made is a value comparo. No one ever said the Z and gen are direct comp. No one said the gen is equal to a G or bimmer. The only thing reviewers say is you can get a large portion of that performance in a gencoupe. Not all, but a good amount. The interior quality is on par with a camry or eclipse. Which is fair cuz its in the price range.
Its only real flaws is a iron and steel suspension and a cut rate tranny. Which is not great but for a first year sub30k sports car. Its expected. its the only rwd import in the price range. It has a better quality interior than mustang and camaro v6 and outperforms every gt v6 in its price range.the Z is another level, but its interesting to see where the gen holds up.
Most of u like bragging about how close a porsche and a Z are in performance.a top line Z is $42k. $47k in convert. A topline gen is $33k. Obviously for the 9k difference. Its a good car.
Lastly, by saying the car is cheap blah blah blah... ur making a comparo yourself.

chuckd05

a 2.0t gen coupe could become a nasty beast if the right things are done... ive seen one with over 400 whp already with about 4k into it.

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Red370

you can build the engine and replace the turbo for 4k? i've read quite a bit about that 2.0 and manufacturers are hard pressed to pull any kind of power out of it at all, I believe it was import tuner that did a test and tune with it and with about 3k worth of parts, pulled out an astounding 30whp!!

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I want a Z

I was very unimpressed with the cayman cabin - I didn't drive it because I could not imagine spending any time in there over the Z

I am not a big guy at all but the bottom seat bolsters on the G37 were way uncomfortable.

I drove the BMW 335IS and the DCT awesome but not sure if it is awesome enough to warrant spending twice as much as the Gen Coupe.

Side by side comparisons the Gen Coupe looses in a few categories, but what I need to ask myself is once you drive it off the lot and you are finished with the side by side comparisons, is it a good fun car to drive every day. I think the answer may be yes, and that surprises me.

FuszNissan

My father-in law has a NSX. And that was the same issue, clutch was crazy expensive, but other than that it's been a great toy for him. He only puts about 1500 miles a year on it, so I guess you have to take that into consideration.

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Red370

and as far as the weight is concerned, I was comparing it to the 3.8L, which performance wise, is more on par with the Z.

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Red370

never claimed the 5.0's interior was great, it sucks actually. I've never been one for interiors anyways, im a performance guy and like I said, if its fun and speed that you want, you might want to cross shop at MS3 as well. Hyundai left a sour taste in my mouth after my ex and I owned a Sonata, worst car i've ever owned. They may have upped their quality since then, but i'm just not a fan of the looks of the genesis. You might also want to take a look at the FT-86 when it comes out.

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I want a Z

Performance on the 5.0 is awesome, but I drove the gen and it was good enough. I will never take a car to the track and could care less who can beat me at a red light, I've matured past that

FT-86 looks great but if I keep waiting for the next best, I will never get a car.

Red370

I think you've already convinced yourself that you're going with the genesis, no problem there man, its your money in the end. But i'll say this, whatever car you end up with, i think you'd want something with alot of options to upgrade, both in styling and performance, right now the genesis aftermarket is moving along much much slower than the Z's, I have two coworkers, one with a red 2.0 and one with the 3.8, and I hear them complaining all the time about lack of support in the aftermarket, the 3.8 guy is even considering trading up for a 5.0.

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I want a Z

I am a stock guy could care less about aftermarket parts
I just want to buy something - drive it and enjoy

Red370

370.

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CBRich

This conversation would be much less tense and much more logical if everyone who HAS NOT driven all the cars being argued would take a hike.

I tested them all. The G, the Gen, the 370, the 135, the 335. They all have strong points and weak points. Seriously, don't bash a car you know nothing about based on the 92 Excel or your friend's car or what you heard.

I want a Z

One thing that I think the Gen Coupe does better then all the other cars is their website
If you have not seen it, check it out. Very cool. Make sure you turn on the driver radio in the lower right corner
Hyundai Genesis Coupe: Affordable Performance 300+hp Sport Coupe | Hyundai

PloppityDrown

That is a neat presentation. It's pretty fun messing with all the camera angles on the track video, and listening to the driver's feedback. The dramatic classical music in the background while the car does donuts... I'm not sure if that was meant to be taken seriously or if they're poking fun at themselves.

Hyundai's main website, though, leaves much to be desired. I have a hard time finding exactly what I'm looking for---specs, comparing trim lines, etc. And you can't search local inventory on the site. You have to go to individual dealer websites to check their inventory.

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The other day test drove a 3.8 R-Spec and a 370Z sport pkg. The GenCoupe was a fun drive, with plenty of power, sporty handling, and a relatively upscale interior. It felt like it needed some more sophisticated shock absorbers to keep up with the track-tuned springs, though. The ride was at times even worse than my MS3 (w/ RSB, worn out shocks & tires). I also wasn't keen on the bright blue dash backlighting. And I felt like I was breaking something trying to shift into reverse. There's no "push in" or "pull collar" to unlock the reverse gear. You just pull it hard to the left until it pops in. It's a huge step for Hyundai into sporty car relevance, and a great value, but the only improvement I see in it over my MS3 is RWD vs FWD---not enough to give up the full package the MS3 offers.

The 370z, by comparison, feels like a real sports car---a better performance machine in every respect. I know I said the Lambda 3.8 has plenty of power, but more is always better, right? And the low-effort clutch pedal, direct-action shifter, and synchro-rev-matching made it the best manual transmission experience I've ever had. I was a little worried when the salesman was driving---I guess he was trying to impress me by short-shifting every gear. But behind the wheel it was child's play getting smooth upshifts and downshifts every time. I didn't realize the S-R-M system works on upshifts, too. And perhaps because of it's lighter weight, better chassis stiffness, and weight balance, it felt more planted in the turns and yet rode more comfortably than the Coupe.

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I had a similar experience when I was about to buy a Mazda3 5-door. Before I sat down at the negotiating table, I figured I should test drive the Mazdaspeed model. The Speed3 was unequivocally better or equal in every way. And I knew I had to have it. I had to save up several more months to afford it, but it was worth the wait.