Z vs Gen.

daisuke149 · 09-28-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

i cant believe these 2 cars are being compared...a hyundai vs INFINITI...are you serious...the GC may perform well but please...hyundai, kia, they are generic cheap vehicles. They may perform, and have good build quality as of lately but they are not to be compared to INFINITY g37. I would never cross shop these two vehicles

I understand you may not, but then its because look at your first statement. your comparing names. not the car.

I wonder how many people on this forum own a samsung TV? Cus about 6 years ago their TV's were absolute ****.

And again they compare to the g37 due to:
Similar hp.
Similar style
Similar seating
Similar driving characteristics

Now im saying its similar, not equal. So yes, its not better or equal to a g37 but for 8-10k less it does a damn good job. Thats the point that most people are trying to make on this forum and alot of people seem to go all ape ****.

optiontrader · 09-29-2010, 01:25 AM

*My head hurts*

I want a Z · 10-03-2010, 11:10 AM

Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy.
The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio.
I am just looking for something that I like.

I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is
370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe.

tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats)

Anything I am missing that I should drive?

shadoquad · 10-03-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z

Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy.
The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio.
I am just looking for something that I like.

I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is
370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe.

tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats)

Anything I am missing that I should drive?

That's a pretty good list. Of course, I don't know all your deciding factors, but Porsche Boxster/Cayman, Mazda RX-8, and maybe a Vette or slightly used 911 come to mind. If you have reasons for not being interested in those, that's cool, too. And of course, when you mention the Mustang, you can take the pepsi challenge with the Camaro and/or Challenger, but I have a feeling the Stang's at the top of that class.

I want a Z · 10-04-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

That's a pretty good list. Of course, I don't know all your deciding factors, but Porsche Boxster/Cayman, Mazda RX-8, and maybe a Vette or slightly used 911 come to mind. If you have reasons for not being interested in those, that's cool, too. And of course, when you mention the Mustang, you can take the pepsi challenge with the Camaro and/or Challenger, but I have a feeling the Stang's at the top of that class.

Sat in a Cayman this weekend, I was not inspired to take it for a drive, could see picking that over the Z
RX-8, no desire to even look at it.
Vette - love them but I am not going to buy a GM or Chrysler product.
Camaro/Challenger - do nothing for me either & see above

Lemers · 10-03-2010, 12:07 PM

With the Z, camaro, 11 Mustang the Gen Coupe just comes up too little too late. Maybe in a few years they'll consider future competition and not current competition.

In the world of sports car and coupes the game is not won be keeping up with the Joneses but beating them into submission.

DIGItonium · 10-04-2010, 08:10 AM

[OFFTOPIC]
^ How about a used NSX? That's what I would like to have if it weren't for the Z heh.
[/OFFTOPIC]

I want a Z · 10-04-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

[OFFTOPIC]
^ How about a used NSX? That's what I would like to have if it weren't for the Z heh.
[/OFFTOPIC]

I have always liked those
Wonder what maintenance is like on them

Lug · 10-04-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z

I have always liked those
Wonder what maintenance is like on them

Fiend of mine had one and the clutch pad was $3000. That's not to install, just the price of the part.

wilsonp · 10-04-2010, 09:43 AM

Mostly it is like a Honda but expensive at the dealer. Lots of info at NSX Prime so you can see what you are getting into. Of course, there is always the occasional lemon - I spent $4k - $9k a year keeping mine running, counting OEM tires but mostly new parts at the dealer.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-04-2010, 10:27 AM

I tested the gencoupe. And there are a few things I like about it over the G37. The gencoupe definately feels more tossable than the G, though the G is more precise. I'm comfy in G seats but I'm 6ft and 170lean pounds. If ur a wide dude, those seats just don't cut it. The gencoupe seat design is leagues better than most sport coupes out there. I gotta give hyundai that much. If they switched to some kind of dual clutch tranny? I think the winner of the affordable sports cars would be the gencoupe. I'm just being honest.
But, where I find flaws is in overall interior quality (though not bad, I'm used to infinit quality), the plain grille and the 6at is not geared well for a sports car. I actually needed a auto so I had to go with the most aggressive auto out there.
I tested a lot of automatic sports cars... corvette and camaro are pretty good though not the best trannies. 2011 bmw 135I 7dct is sick with it. I think it rivals the Z in fun factor. Only thing is that electronic lsd sucks. Bmw has an aftermarket covered physical LSD, but, you looking at $5,000 installed. BMW quality aftermarket parts are thru the roof and this is my main reason for not liking bimmer. I can get cheaper quality parts for a porsche. That doesn't make sense to me.

I haven't driven it yet but I would luv to test drive a porsche cayman pdk. I have driven the tiptronic. The Z's tranny feels more aggressive than the tip but I bet the pdk takes it to new levels. That will be my next test.

Red370 · 10-04-2010, 10:39 AM

im still wondering how the genesis keeps somehow getting compared to the Z and other cars that are clearly beyond its class... they're cheap, underpowered, look like an updated Tiburon, no technological advances to speak of, and weigh more than Shumbys girlfriend. Lets stop the comparos yeah?

I want a Z · 10-04-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

im still wondering how the genesis keeps somehow getting compared to the Z and other cars that are clearly beyond its class... they're cheap, underpowered, look like an updated Tiburon, no technological advances to speak of, and weigh more than Shumbys girlfriend. Lets stop the comparos yeah?

It's something like 100lbs heavier then the Z with a longer wheelbase and backseats. I would hardly call it heavy.

I can't speak for others, but I am comparing it to the Z because my requirement for a new car is, something comfortable, fast and a fun car to drive and they both fall in that category.

You may one to take one for a drive before you continue to bash it.

Red370 · 10-04-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by I want a Z

It's something like 100lbs heavier then the Z with a longer wheelbase and backseats. I would hardly call it heavy.

I can't speak for others, but I am comparing it to the Z because my requirement for a new car is, something comfortable, fast and a fun car to drive and they both fall in that category.

You may one to take one for a drive before you continue to bash it.

I've had a 370 and now drive a 5.0, I think i'll pass on that Hyundai trash

I want a Z · 10-04-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I've had a 370 and now drive a 5.0, I think i'll pass on that Hyundai trash

5.0 also a great car and on my short list.
You should just take a glance at the Hyundai, it's far from trash.
The interior is actually much nicer then the 5.0 (which I do like)

09-29-2010, 01:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 17	My head hurts __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

10-03-2010, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	With the Z, camaro, 11 Mustang the Gen Coupe just comes up too little too late. Maybe in a few years they'll consider future competition and not current competition. In the world of sports car and coupes the game is not won be keeping up with the Joneses but beating them into submission. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-04-2010, 08:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 43	[OFFTOPIC] ^ How about a used NSX? That's what I would like to have if it weren't for the Z heh. [/OFFTOPIC] __________________

10-04-2010, 09:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 18	Mostly it is like a Honda but expensive at the dealer. Lots of info at NSX Prime so you can see what you are getting into. Of course, there is always the occasional lemon - I spent $4k - $9k a year keeping mine running, counting OEM tires but mostly new parts at the dealer. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-04-2010, 10:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	im still wondering how the genesis keeps somehow getting compared to the Z and other cars that are clearly beyond its class... they're cheap, underpowered, look like an updated Tiburon, no technological advances to speak of, and weigh more than Shumbys girlfriend. Lets stop the comparos yeah? __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-03-2010, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
I want a Z Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MD Posts: 225 Drives: 03 Chevy Avalanche Rep Power: 16	Just test drove a 3.8 Tack this weekend. I went in not expecting to like it, thinking it wouild be under powered and not fun to drive. Boy was I wrong, I actually really liked the Gen Coupe. I also tested the G37 but found the seats very uncomfortable, the bottom bolstering just hit me in the wrong spots and I am not a big guy. The price is great but not a real factor in my decisions, I can afford an M3, G37 what ever - but I do consider the value/price ratio. I am just looking for something that I like. I have been testing a bunch of cars current short list is 370Z, 335IS/M3 (That's a whole different discussion there), Mustang 5.0, Gen Coupe. tested and didn't make the short list: Audi TT, Lexus 350IS, G37 (actually loved everything about this car but could never live with the seats) Anything I am missing that I should drive?

10-04-2010, 10:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	I tested the gencoupe. And there are a few things I like about it over the G37. The gencoupe definately feels more tossable than the G, though the G is more precise. I'm comfy in G seats but I'm 6ft and 170lean pounds. If ur a wide dude, those seats just don't cut it. The gencoupe seat design is leagues better than most sport coupes out there. I gotta give hyundai that much. If they switched to some kind of dual clutch tranny? I think the winner of the affordable sports cars would be the gencoupe. I'm just being honest. But, where I find flaws is in overall interior quality (though not bad, I'm used to infinit quality), the plain grille and the 6at is not geared well for a sports car. I actually needed a auto so I had to go with the most aggressive auto out there. I tested a lot of automatic sports cars... corvette and camaro are pretty good though not the best trannies. 2011 bmw 135I 7dct is sick with it. I think it rivals the Z in fun factor. Only thing is that electronic lsd sucks. Bmw has an aftermarket covered physical LSD, but, you looking at $5,000 installed. BMW quality aftermarket parts are thru the roof and this is my main reason for not liking bimmer. I can get cheaper quality parts for a porsche. That doesn't make sense to me. I haven't driven it yet but I would luv to test drive a porsche cayman pdk. I have driven the tiptronic. The Z's tranny feels more aggressive than the tip but I bet the pdk takes it to new levels. That will be my next test.