Hope Nissan is watching this...

tbonesteak

Yes, the fanboism of the Z crowd is pretty horrid. Hence the reputation. I was cross shopping the Gen Coupe and drove about 10 of them just to be sure I could live with the thing. I was shocked at how well it drove, handled, felt, looked, and all main criteria that I was looking at. I admit, i was once a Hyundai-hater solely based on the prior image, but after driving gen coupe, gen sedan, and the new sonata, I am a true believer in their products and I would pick up a gen sedan if i was in the market for something in that class. I didn't end up getting the gen coupe because of the deal i was thrown at with my 370, but to me Hyundai is definitely a top tier automaker today.

fullmonty

IBTL

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Forrest

If i was in the market again. And i had to cross shop a Genesis 5.0 and a 370z same price. at 429HP i would be driving a genesis.

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LinPark

I would say Warm's "fanboyism" is right where it should be here on The370Z.com - why don't you guys stroll back over to TheGC.com and show your "fanboyism" there? Looks to me like you're just here for starting arguments. I know this is a public forum but my understanding is that its intention is to provide a place where 370Z enthusiasts and owners can come together and share ideas. Not saying you aren't welcome, but what purpose are you serving here to further that end?

m4a1mustang

Ah... the "car guy" is truly a dying breed.

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j.arnaldo

...imagine a "Z" with the 4.5L engine of the high-end "M" car...She would even eclipse the GT-R!!!

Cmike2780

Imagine a mid engine Z to truly compete with the Cayman S in terms of balance.

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Endgame

It seems to me that the Gen Coupe is not targeting the 'true' sport car market, but rather going after the Stangs in an attempt to enter the muscle car war. It will be hard for it to do so, and for many to view it as a muscle car only becuase muscle cars are typically what? American....

But, that most definately seems to be the route the are going. The V8 will increase weight of the car (engine and chasis strenthing to handle the power) to somewhere close to the Stang; so it will become just that... a true muscle car by definition.

That's cool, I think the Stang is top notch and would love to see Ford rattled again by the Gen Coupe. Because it is an import, however, people will ALWAYS class is a Z competition, but in the end, it will really be more comparable to the Muscle cars with a V8. Meanwhile, the Z continues to be compared to the Z4's, Caymans, Boxsters, etc of the world.

And, the ONLY Gen Coupe I have seen and thought looked good, was a white one, lowered on gun metal CE28's I saw rolling around Phoenix a couple months back. It was hot.

LMBmikeZ

**** it take a Z and fit a titan 5.6L v8 and see how you can tune her up!

daisuke149

again the other cars that hyundai produces arent crap. The genesis sedan is an amazing car. The 2006+ sonata's are great everyday sedans. Compared to an over priced boring camry or accord? A fully loaded 2006 sonata was available for 21k out the door, a comparable camry was 27k. The santa Fe's every since they have been out have been a great alternative as an SUV. They were larger and more comfortable than their competitors (yes the styling is definitely a question to each person and the engines werent great, but when it came out try to remember what the competition was anyway)

And yes as said previously, the GC isnt directly targetting the z, but its still a decent comparison. If it makes nissan up the Z next time around how is any of this a bad thing?

And the reason the 370 has a good aftermarket is that it directly follows the 350. Once the GC 2nd gen is out the aftermarket avail will be comparable if not better due to the 2 engines (esp one being turbo)

Any the GC guy shouldnt have to take his "arguements" somewhere else. This is a forum. A forum is a place to discuss ideas and share thoughts. And people are right, there is abhorish fanboism sometimes (on both sides lets be fair, if we take a look at the GC forums)

P.S I also did crosh shop the GC and the 370. In the end i wanted a purer sports car, had no need for 4 seats (i also purchased a versa at the same time). So again the 370 is purpose built as a sports car. The GC is built as a sports coupe but better than the other sports coupes out there. (notice, sports car vs sports coupe, yes theres a difference)

Now if only Korea would send the Spirra out here at a 40k price point or something.

tbonesteak

what Daisuke said two posts up. Hyundai has come up at a rate that no other auto manufacturers have ever done so in the past, especially after a completely ruined image (which in the car world is pretty much game over for a company). Their cars are brilliant and backed by the best warranty. They are now the 5th biggest auto maker in the world and ain't goin anywhere for a long long time. While i admit my 370 is superior to the gc in every performance aspect, i admit that they are legit and offer very high quality products (perceived from both real life experiences and countless media reviews). A true car guy would not bash on something that they are biased purely on their opinion. "30-40x the racing heritage".....are you kidding me? that is the most retarded logic i have ever heard in my life.

Gunzero

Nobody cares what you guys drive. Just live your life according to you. Don't let other people dictate what you choose. These 2 cars are badass

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Jeffblue

I dont think the genesis is a nice car and i dont think that they intended it to be some sort of budget Z Killer. Compare this to an altima coupe, or a honda accord coupe and it runs laps around them. I think its really supposed to run laps around the FWD wanna be sporty coupes that just aren't, and that it does. I'd take a GC over an altima coupe or accord coupe or eclipse any day.

Stupid mens magazines make these dumb comparisons just for the sake of it. its not car enthusiasts that do it.

I feel like a GC owner would be more likely to look at an accord coupe and think like 'hah i spent the same amount of money and got RWD handling and more power than your practical 2 door version of a sedan' rather than looking at a Z and going 'HAH I could totally destroy that Z on the track!'

toxik

^ some of the Gen coupe owners I talked to think their car is Lambo status and better than anything out there. Someone even told me my Z is ugly compared to their Genesis.

I still think that GC is a nice car, but I agree, if it has 4 seats it should not be compared to a Z in any way shape or form.

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Jeffblue

Agreed. There are people with riced out civics that thing their cars are lambo status and are better than anything else. Ultimately, they know its not. If i pull up to a 911, The guy can look over at my car, think its a really nice car, but he knows its better, and i know his is better too. If i pull up to a genesis, and made eye contact i'd definitely say, nice car. and i think that MOST genesis owners, deep down, know that the Z is a better car.