Hope Nissan is watching this...

matt@qc · 06-25-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

i just don't think sports cars are meant to be cheap.

Funny you should say that, I've always seen the Z has a cheaper alternative to the other sports cars out there (Porsche Cayman, BMW Z4, M3, etc.)

The Z, to this day, is still the "cheapest" true sport car (2 seater, RWD, 300hp+) you can get for the money.

Perspective makes wonder.

wishihadnav · 06-25-2010, 01:23 PM

^^yeah i have to agree...Z's are cheap..haha.

toxik · 06-25-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

WTF......u are fail. You haven't been around a while i'm assuming. Miatas for 18 yr old first car? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA wow....speechless.

lol i haven't been around for a while? okay i will always admit where a car excels but I would never drive a miata, its so small and looks so meh. Anyone older than 30 driving that car is in some hard case of mid life crisis. Hey I can't have a personal opinion, or am I automatically wrong if you don't agree?

Edit: BTW just to see if I'm the only one with this opinion, I did a quick google and found a TON of results... here's one for example: http://vlane.com/review/8300/1997-ma...ung-enthusiast

shadoquad · 06-25-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

lol i haven't been around for a while? okay i will always admit where a car excels but I would never drive a miata, its so small and looks so meh. Anyone older than 30 driving that car is in some hard case of mid life crisis. Hey I can't have a personal opinion, or am I automatically wrong if you don't agree?

Freedom of thought... on the internet?! Are you CRAZY?!

CBRich · 06-25-2010, 02:47 PM

I have no idea how old you WarmandSCSI but I can tell you now that you will do much better in this life with an open mind rather than the closed minded ignorance you have now. And I am done with this thread.

daisuke149 · 06-25-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I have no idea how old you WarmandSCSI but I can tell you now that you will do much better in this life with an open mind rather than the closed minded ignorance you have now. And I am done with this thread.

maybe cus he also owns an Evo. those guys have a horrid reputation about being closed minded arrogant douche's.

tbonesteak · 06-25-2010, 03:03 PM

uh....toxik. i am not even gonna respond to your post because i honestly cannot grasp where to start. If you see miatas as a 18 yo's first car, then you are missing out brother. Miatas are one of the most respected tuner cars in the import scene. The revolution that it started, the potential it has, what people make it do, etc. Let's just say that without the Miata, the s2000 would not have been made and the z3 roadster probably won't have been made as well. I am willing to bet you that the percentage of Miata owners who make their "cheap" cars into track monsters engulf the percentage of Z owners who even take their cars to the track. The miata is a true enthusaist car and noone experienced in the field will deny that.

toxik · 06-25-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

uh....toxik. i am not even gonna respond to your post because i honestly cannot grasp where to start. If you see miatas as a 18 yo's first car, then you are missing out brother. Miatas are one of the most respected tuner cars in the import scene. The revolution that it started, the potential it has, what people make it do, etc. Let's just say that without the Miata, the s2000 would not have been made and the z3 roadster probably won't have been made as well. I am willing to bet you that the percentage of Miata owners who make their "cheap" cars into track monsters engulf the percentage of Z owners who even take their cars to the track. The miata is a true enthusaist car and noone experienced in the field will deny that.

I still don't understand your gripe with my statement, why is a miata hard to drive? Everything I know about a miata says that it handles like a dream and is a perky little car. Why is it a bad first car to get if you are into sports car at a young age? Again like I said before I even googled exactly that and found ton of sites that posted similar discussion as a miata being a great first car to get. Please enlighten me, I'm not trying to be hostile at all... I'm just as much of a car enthusiast as the next guy.

wishihadnav · 06-25-2010, 03:11 PM

yeah miata's are great track cars no doubt..rwd,cheap,light..etc..still wouldn't drive one on the street though..but thats just me..haha.

shadoquad · 06-25-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

I still don't understand your gripe with my statement, why is a miata hard to drive? Everything I know about a miata says that it handles like a dream and is a perky little car. Why is it a bad first car to get if you are into sports car at a young age? Again like I said before I even googled exactly that and found ton of sites that posted similar discussion as a miata being a great first car to get. Please enlighten me, I'm not trying to be hostile at all... I'm just as much of a car enthusiast as the next guy.

I could be wrong, but I think that he's referring to the fact that it's not only a great first car, but there are more uses for older miatas as inexpensive track toys for later in life.

Cmike2780 · 06-25-2010, 03:49 PM

Don't race anything you can't afford to crash. The Miata is a perfect squid car to learn proper driving technique's. Don't forget, that car was still going strong when it seemed like rwd sports cars were going extinct (300ZX, RX-7, Supra).

wishihadnav · 06-25-2010, 03:57 PM

^^exactly.

tbonesteak · 06-25-2010, 05:05 PM

^^^YES finally.

tbonesteak · 06-25-2010, 05:08 PM

bottom line is that your "i don't think sports cars are meant to be cheap" philosophy is a no go.

kenchan · 06-25-2010, 07:44 PM

anyone going all out KDM yet?

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tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	uh....toxik. i am not even gonna respond to your post because i honestly cannot grasp where to start. If you see miatas as a 18 yo's first car, then you are missing out brother. Miatas are one of the most respected tuner cars in the import scene. The revolution that it started, the potential it has, what people make it do, etc. Let's just say that without the Miata, the s2000 would not have been made and the z3 roadster probably won't have been made as well. I am willing to bet you that the percentage of Miata owners who make their "cheap" cars into track monsters engulf the percentage of Z owners who even take their cars to the track. The miata is a true enthusaist car and noone experienced in the field will deny that.

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wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	^^exactly.

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tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	^^^YES finally.

06-25-2010, 05:08 PM	#119 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	bottom line is that your "i don't think sports cars are meant to be cheap" philosophy is a no go.

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