Hope Nissan is watching this...

matt@qc · 06-26-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

If they do come out with a 429hp sports car,they should design it from the ground up instead of an after thought to fill a segment. I would like to see what Hyundai can do with more time and r&d. It seemed like they rushed the Genesis Coupe to market to keep the steam going. If they go through with it, it's a win for car enthusiast. More competition is gonna produce better sports cars and always has.

That's a good point.

All that you are seeing from Hyundai today is in preparation for a new "luxury" brand in 4-5 years when the second generation of Genesis Sedan and Coupes come along.

I wouldn't expect the V8 to make it in this current generation.

daleks · 06-26-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by matt@qc

That's a good point.

All that you are seeing from Hyundai today is in preparation for a new "luxury" brand in 4-5 years when the second generation of Genesis Sedan and Coupes come along.

I wouldn't expect the V8 to make it in this current generation.

Yeah Hyundai is going to drop a V8 into a car when nearly every other brand is looking at hybrid and/or diesel sportscars. Even German manufacturers (M & AMG-series) are moving from V8's to twin turbo V6's. Wishful thinking for future Hyundai owners...

matt@qc · 06-26-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by daleks

Yeah Hyundai is going to drop a V8 into a car when nearly every other brand is looking at hybrid and/or diesel sportscars. Even German manufacturers (M & AMG-series) are moving from V8's to twin turbo V6's. Wishful thinking for future Hyundai owners...

Hyundai has rarely been known for innovation, and the Genesis Coupe is certainly not a high mover in the sense they could care less about MPG.

j.arnaldo · 06-26-2010, 10:00 AM

Right, Cmike! Even BETTER!!!

tbonesteak · 06-26-2010, 11:26 AM

^^well i guess we'll have to see about that. Hopefully it's legit.

kenchan · 06-26-2010, 05:31 PM

I want to see them put 429hp in their late 80's Excell. Now that would be funny. It would be the next faux mitsu evolution.

kenchan · 06-28-2010, 02:41 PM

wat if they did 480hp using electric motor assist?

kenchan · 06-29-2010, 10:46 AM

so you guys are saying tesla sabotaged the oil rig?

shadoquad · 06-29-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

so you guys are saying tesla sabotaged the oil rig?

Kenchan knows too much! Who've you been talking to?

kenchan · 06-29-2010, 12:31 PM

Red370 · 06-29-2010, 12:56 PM

the Genesis' looks arent too far removed from the Tiburon, huge turnoff for me. Add as much power as you want, it'll be poorly balanced and overweight. As much as I hate to admit it, the new Mustang is looking more impressive every day.

wishihadnav · 06-29-2010, 01:18 PM

Jeffblue · 06-29-2010, 02:02 PM

Lots of people would want to buy heroin, but the government doesn't want us to because it is dangerous and causes people to become junkies that commit crimes like theft to pay for their fix. just because something can turn a profit doesn't mean it should be sold. People don't go out and buy big engine sports cars because they're practical, they are for fun. Sports cars will never make up enough of the market to make any impact on emissions. SUV's however, make up a huge part of the market, and curtailing their sale and thus, their emissions is important. YES peopel will buy big SUV's and therefore companies like GM would be able to turn a profit on them, but they arent good for the environment. If you're not hauling anything or going off road, you are really just driving a glorified minivan.

Gov't has every right to push GM to sell what they want it to because the gov't basically own's GM. If GM were capable of making cars that people wanted, they wouldn't have done so poorly and needed to be bailed out in the first place. They milked the SUV fad for all it was worth instead of R&D for the new generation of cars, and they suffer for it now.

shadoquad · 06-29-2010, 02:19 PM

I don't like the SUV-heroin metaphor. I don't completely disagree with the point, but it's not as if hybrids and electrics are the fruit and veggies in the automotive diet. They're still harming the environment.

edit: not going to derail this any further into a political debate.

Jeffblue · 06-29-2010, 02:31 PM

i guess heroin isn't a good comparison. McDonalds would be a better example. My point is just that just because you have someone who wants to buy something, doesn't mean that its ethical to sell it. I also hate when sports cars are compared to SUV's in terms of emissions. it shouldn't fall upon ferari to make their cars more fuel efficient. It should fall upon the mass auto manufacturers.

Hyundia, even if they made this car, would still probably be overall a more fuel efficient fleet than GM.

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	the Genesis' looks arent too far removed from the Tiburon, huge turnoff for me. Add as much power as you want, it'll be poorly balanced and overweight. As much as I hate to admit it, the new Mustang is looking more impressive every day. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3887	I don't like the SUV-heroin metaphor. I don't completely disagree with the point, but it's not as if hybrids and electrics are the fruit and veggies in the automotive diet. They're still harming the environment. edit: not going to derail this any further into a political debate. Last edited by shadoquad; 06-29-2010 at 02:23 PM.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	Lots of people would want to buy heroin, but the government doesn't want us to because it is dangerous and causes people to become junkies that commit crimes like theft to pay for their fix. just because something can turn a profit doesn't mean it should be sold. People don't go out and buy big engine sports cars because they're practical, they are for fun. Sports cars will never make up enough of the market to make any impact on emissions. SUV's however, make up a huge part of the market, and curtailing their sale and thus, their emissions is important. YES peopel will buy big SUV's and therefore companies like GM would be able to turn a profit on them, but they arent good for the environment. If you're not hauling anything or going off road, you are really just driving a glorified minivan. Gov't has every right to push GM to sell what they want it to because the gov't basically own's GM. If GM were capable of making cars that people wanted, they wouldn't have done so poorly and needed to be bailed out in the first place. They milked the SUV fad for all it was worth instead of R&D for the new generation of cars, and they suffer for it now.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	i guess heroin isn't a good comparison. McDonalds would be a better example. My point is just that just because you have someone who wants to buy something, doesn't mean that its ethical to sell it. I also hate when sports cars are compared to SUV's in terms of emissions. it shouldn't fall upon ferari to make their cars more fuel efficient. It should fall upon the mass auto manufacturers. Hyundia, even if they made this car, would still probably be overall a more fuel efficient fleet than GM.