Hope Nissan is watching this...

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.
Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.

Don't be bitter over their naturally aspirated $30K car makes almost 90% of the power the GT-R makes without sounding like a leaf-blower on steroids. This is just a wake-up call for Nissan. It's time to get with the program. In the late 90's, 330hp was "cool". Now, even econo/Korean companies are 100 past it.

If this engine were in the 370Z, I would rush out and buy one tomorrow. It isn't. I'm not. Probably going to buy a 'vette if the 2011 model Z doesn't have 385+bhp, which I doubt it will. I just don't think anything less than 400bhp is very competative anymore unless you're in highschool. Even then it's a bit weak. 500bhp is the new 350bhp. 2001----->2011. Evolve.

theDreamer · 10-03-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Don't be bitter over their naturally aspirated $30K car makes almost 90% of the power the GT-R makes without sounding like a leaf-blower on steroids. This is just a wake-up call for Nissan. It's time to get with the program. In the late 90's, 330hp was "cool". Now, even econo/Korean companies are 100 past it.

If this engine were in the 370Z, I would rush out and buy one tomorrow. It isn't. I'm not. Probably going to buy a 'vette if the 2011 model Z doesn't have 385+bhp, which I doubt it will. I just don't think anything less than 400bhp is very competative anymore unless you're in highschool. Even then it's a bit weak. 500bhp is the new 350bhp. 2001----->2011. Evolve.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

332bhp in 2011 would indeed be a facepalm move in a $35-40K sports car.

theDreamer · 10-03-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

332bhp in 2011 would indeed be a facepalm move in a $35-40K sports car.

No, I am face palming your horrible post, if power is all you want then you are on the wrong forum.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

No, I am face palming your horrible post, if power is all you want then you are on the wrong forum.

I discovered that. Test drove some 370's and LOVED! the quality. Nissan just needs an engine to go with the look/suspension/quality now, and they would have my $$$ in a heartbeat. The car is just boring unless you live in the mountains, and sadly I live in a place with flat/straight roads.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I'm not disagreeing with everything said, but power is not the "be all, end all" with sports cars. I know you like to drag race, so I can see where you're coming from, but the Miata makes barely more than it once did, and it's a favorite track toy. 330 hp ain't bad, especially for a 3200lbs. vehicle.

I understand on the track, hp isn't such a big deal, but on the street, the 370Z felt boring to me. Maybe it's because I drove an LS1 car through college, but the car did a lot more for me sitting still or going (silently, and without rattles) over pot-holes on a bad road at 15mph than it did when I floored it.

The 370Z is a great daily driver, but it's not world class like the M3, Z06, or the 911 family. It doesn't cost as much, either. If $40K was the MOST I could spend, I would indeed buy a 370Z. However, considering cars that cost into the 60's, it kinda lost me. If it had 400hp, like I said, I would buy in a heartbeat.

You might sell a man a Z06 who can afford a 911TT, but you won't sell a man a 370Z when he can afford a Z06, is what I am getting at. It's locked itself into niche with its weak engine that is FAR below what the style/suspension limit it to.

Honestly, if Nissan could put out a 385+hp Z, that is all the excuse I would need. Love the car, hate the engine.

shadoquad · 10-03-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I understand on the track, hp isn't such a big deal, but on the street, the 370Z felt boring to me. Maybe it's because I drove an LS1 car through college, but the car did a lot more for me sitting still or going (silently, and without rattles) over pot-holes on a bad road at 15mph than it did when I floored it.

The 370Z is a great daily driver, but it's not world class like the M3, Z06, or the 911 family. It doesn't cost as much, either. If $40K was the MOST I could spend, I would indeed buy a 370Z. However, considering cars that cost into the 60's, it kinda lost me. If it had 400hp, like I said, I would buy in a heartbeat.

You might sell a man a Z06 who can afford a 911TT, but you won't sell a man a 370Z when he can afford a Z06, is what I am getting at. It's locked itself into niche with its weak engine that is FAR below what the style/suspension limit it to.

Honestly, if Nissan could put out a 385+hp Z, that is all the excuse I would need. Love the car, hate the engine.

Ah, see I compare it right around the low end of the price point, around 30k vehicles. And right there, I feel that it stacks up pretty well, even if it lacks in power compared to some of the others.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Ah, see I compare it right around the low end of the price point, around 30k vehicles. And right there, I feel that it stacks up pretty well, even if it lacks in power compared to some of the others.

It does great at 30K, but it would do great at 60K, too, if it came with some power. I am looking at cars in the $40-$65K segment--right about what you can get a 1LZ Z06 for. GM quality...meh. However, being beaten by some punk in a stock nearly 15 year-old GM pony-car is MEH!

I like the 370Z's look better than the GT-R's by far, it even sits lower/looks more sleek without the kiddie seats, and I want to drive the car--not the other way around. If they made an intermediate car with more power, no hyper-expensive auto/AWD, I bet it would sell like crazy, stealing base 'vette and P-car sales like candy.

Cmike2780 · 10-03-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

No, I am face palming your horrible post, if power is all you want then you are on the wrong forum.

I guess he's never heard of cars like the Lotus Exige S. It's got only 218 hp so is must get smoked at the track if it were to run against a +500hp Mustang.

ImportConvert · 10-03-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I guess he's never heard of cars like the Lotus Exige S. It's got only 218 hp so is must get smoked at the track if it were to run against a +500hp Mustang.

Sorry, had a 13 second car, and my daily commute is not an SCCA lay-out in a parking-lot. Exige S

shadoquad · 10-03-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Don't be bitter over their naturally aspirated $30K car makes almost 90% of the power the GT-R makes without sounding like a leaf-blower on steroids. This is just a wake-up call for Nissan. It's time to get with the program. In the late 90's, 330hp was "cool". Now, even econo/Korean companies are 100 past it.

If this engine were in the 370Z, I would rush out and buy one tomorrow. It isn't. I'm not. Probably going to buy a 'vette if the 2011 model Z doesn't have 385+bhp, which I doubt it will. I just don't think anything less than 400bhp is very competative anymore unless you're in highschool. Even then it's a bit weak. 500bhp is the new 350bhp. 2001----->2011. Evolve.

I'm not disagreeing with everything said, but power is not the "be all, end all" with sports cars. I know you like to drag race, so I can see where you're coming from, but the Miata makes barely more than it once did, and it's a favorite track toy. 330 hp ain't bad, especially for a 3200lbs. vehicle.

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