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Old 06-23-2010, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.

Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.
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No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.

Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.
I said the same thing almost 40 years ago about Datsun.
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But Datsun was in racing leagues with previous cars, had produced some good quality vehicles, but no sports car. The 240z was a break through and many did say similar things, but Datsun had brought the Z from racing, Hyundai as I know did not do this. I am sure they want the gen coupe to get into racing leagues and take on some of the more established cars.
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Hyundai's quality has skyrocketed over the last decade and the reviews on the Genesis coupe bear that out. On paper the car closely lines up with a later model G35. That is very impresive for a first go at a real sports coupe. I would seriously consider one if the price is in the right ball park. The question for Hyundai is can the attract enough sports coupe buyers with the correct features/price ratio. They can't charge Nissan prices for the same performance in the same way Nissan can't charge Porsche prices for the same performance. Will they have enough room to wiggle on the price to build a following is the only real question.
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Hyundai's quality has skyrocketed over the last decade and the reviews on the Genesis coupe bear that out. On paper the car closely lines up with a later model G35. That is very impresive for a first go at a real sports coupe. I would seriously consider one if the price is in the right ball park. The question for Hyundai is can the attract enough sports coupe buyers with the correct features/price ratio. They can't charge Nissan prices for the same performance in the same way Nissan can't charge Porsche prices for the same performance. Will they have enough room to wiggle on the price to build a following is the only real question.
Sure, sure. I wasn't saying Hyundai won't become a respected sports car maker in the future. The fact of the matter is, at this point, Hyundai has no soul, driving spirit, or racing heritage. Nissan does, and lots of it. I'm proud to own a brand new Z because of the history of the car. I feel accomplished. I would not be able to feel the same way about a Hyundai.

It's kind of like comparing other sporty sedans to the STi or Evo. There just is no comparison to be made for a die-hard motorsports fan.
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Sure, sure. I wasn't saying Hyundai won't become a respected sports car maker in the future. The fact of the matter is, at this point, Hyundai has no soul, driving spirit, or racing heritage. Nissan does, and lots of it.

It's kind of like comparing other sporty sedans to the STi or Evo. There just is no comparison to be made for a die-hard motorsports fan.
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Sure, sure. I wasn't saying Hyundai won't become a respected sports car maker in the future. The fact of the matter is, at this point, Hyundai has no soul, driving spirit, or racing heritage. Nissan does, and lots of it. I'm proud to own a brand new Z because of the history of the car. I feel accomplished. I would not be able to feel the same way about a Hyundai.

It's kind of like comparing other sporty sedans to the STi or Evo. There just is no comparison to be made for a die-hard motorsports fan.
Well they have to start somewhere to be able to get that history/heritage, and this would make a pretty good start much better if it happens!

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No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.

Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.
the funny part is u wont find a hynudai for 9970.. but yo will find a nissan (versa)

and every company had the same start as you are saying about Hyundai, except for Hyundai is making strides faster than the ther ones did back in their day.

to say would i "ever" drive a hyundai is just plain stupid. You dont know what will happen in 10 years and if you do, can i have the lottery numbers please. thanx.
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the funny part is u wont find a hynudai for 9970.. but yo will find a nissan (versa)

and every company had the same start as you are saying about Hyundai, except for Hyundai is making strides faster than the ther ones did back in their day.

to say would i "ever" drive a hyundai is just plain stupid. You dont know what will happen in 10 years and if you do, can i have the lottery numbers please. thanx.
English. You don't even make any sense.

Do some research next time you try to prove somebody wrong

Hyundai Accent... $9970 MSRP

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Not to mention it's terrible compared to a base model Versa. That's more my point than that Hyundai cars are cheap in cost.

You completely missed my point, actually. I can't even believe people who bought new Z's would even argue a Hyundai is in the same league. It's just not, end of story. The 370Z is the 6th generation of Z-car sports car for Nissan. The Genesis Coupe is Hyundai's first. I will say again; Hyundai is good at making a budget beater car. They are not yet good at making a sports car. That's at least 5 years off.

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No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.

Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.
That's pretty ignorant of you to say. Everyone starts somewhere. In 1969 would you have called the 240z a piece since Nissan/Datsun had never built a Z car before? Yes I know the Skyline was built prior to that, but hopefully you'll get the point.

I think a monster Hyundai will make the competition a lot more fun. I'm sure its a few years out but still...
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That's pretty ignorant of you to say. Everyone starts somewhere. In 1969 would you have called the 240z a piece since Nissan/Datsun had never built a Z car before? Yes I know the Skyline was built prior to that, but hopefully you'll get the point.

I think a monster Hyundai will make the competition a lot more fun. I'm sure its a few years out but still...
It's not ignorant. I wouldn't have bought a 240Z when they first came out either.

Actually I might have cause they are a hell of a lot better looking than the Genesis Coupe (which is downright fugly and disproportionate).
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No matter how you look at it, it's a car produced by a company who specializes in cranking out brand new $9970 pieces of ****. A company who never before this decade produced anything worth mentioning. A company who has no past experience building a true sports car.
Do they make a damn good economy car? You betcha. Would I ever drive a Hyundai over a Nissan? Hell no, mainly for the reasons I stated above.
Don't be bitter over their naturally aspirated $30K car makes almost 90% of the power the GT-R makes without sounding like a leaf-blower on steroids. This is just a wake-up call for Nissan. It's time to get with the program. In the late 90's, 330hp was "cool". Now, even econo/Korean companies are 100 past it.

If this engine were in the 370Z, I would rush out and buy one tomorrow. It isn't. I'm not. Probably going to buy a 'vette if the 2011 model Z doesn't have 385+bhp, which I doubt it will. I just don't think anything less than 400bhp is very competative anymore unless you're in highschool. Even then it's a bit weak. 500bhp is the new 350bhp. 2001----->2011. Evolve.

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Don't be bitter over their naturally aspirated $30K car makes almost 90% of the power the GT-R makes without sounding like a leaf-blower on steroids. This is just a wake-up call for Nissan. It's time to get with the program. In the late 90's, 330hp was "cool". Now, even econo/Korean companies are 100 past it.

If this engine were in the 370Z, I would rush out and buy one tomorrow. It isn't. I'm not. Probably going to buy a 'vette if the 2011 model Z doesn't have 385+bhp, which I doubt it will. I just don't think anything less than 400bhp is very competative anymore unless you're in highschool. Even then it's a bit weak. 500bhp is the new 350bhp. 2001----->2011. Evolve.
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