Hope Nissan is watching this...

Lug

So, diffeerent rules for different makers when it suits your purpose.....got it.

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Emotiongear

By the time this thing comes out, some of us (like me lol) will have 600hp in our 370's.
(Come on Top Secret...we're waiting!)

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370zlove3

I don't think there is a point in having a friendly competition when someone says my car is modded therefore it is better. Guy B might as well say "guess what? My Camaro is putting out 800 horsepower and also reduced weight!"

Stock specifications is where the fun and debate are at.

Emotiongear

Umm..I didnt say that to debate, I'm actually waiting on Top Secret. lol
Right now, my Z is ok, I need to modify it more so it suits me better. At any given time, even with a vehicle like the 370z which is not so popular in Japan, I have a rather wide range of options for quality JDM upgrades.

That is were the Z wins over the Genesis in my book. If I purchase a Genesis, even with 428hp stock, I'll have to sacrifice the things that truly make me happy (even more so than the car itself)...the fantastic upgrades from Top Secret, Amuse, Mines, Jun Mechanic, and all the other awesome Japanese tuners who are the reason why i'm here in the first place

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cptspeed

I'll thank the unions for my 40 hr work weeks. overtime for anything over 40. extensive training programs. paid vacations. safety programs etc.. and lets not forget, the car manufacturers signed a collective bargaining agreement with the unions. The unions are not the problem here. People agreeing to work for peanuts in other factories make it appear that way.

Lug

That all works as long as everyone is bound by the same rules. What craps the system is when overseas competition came in and could spend less on labor and more on product development and production per unit. The outcome is inevitable.

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antennahead

You don't want a guy with a 10th grade education driving a forklift making $85,000 a year? What's wrong with you

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cptspeed

You have a valid point. The automotive unions are an example of union principles gone bad.
If only I could have made that much when I drove a forklift back in 95

Jeffblue

yea damn overseas competition. i would never buy a car made overseas!


but really, its true. if other companies are not bound by the same rules because they are under governmental regulations, its hard to compete. However, ultimately, a car made by higher paid, more educated people should be more well made. unfortunately, that isn't necessarily true.

Lug

We got the "higher paid", but missed the "more educated" part.

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theDreamer

Buy a Z and a TT or SC kit.

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ImportConvert

BTDT with heavily modded cars. No thanks. I want to drive it from the dealer to the tint-shop and be done with it. All those mods kill re-sale, destroy warranty, and last I checked, noone knows how to tune them anyway. Stillen was getting junk numbers in customer cars, and the Greddy kits produce crazy jagged power-curves indicative of someone not knowing how to get the VVT technology to mesh with the kit. A car with a mod like that is just a nightmare from a practicality standpoint in my experience.

Besides, why should I have to do it when GM gives me 450whp stock? Why can't Nissan offer me at least 400 at the flywheel?

That is like me telling you to go buy a Corvette, and spring for $15K worth of Caravagio interior so it will be "classy" inside. How would you feel about that? I think you would tell me to go pound sand.

theDreamer

Guess I should yell at my car it should not be running right.
You are looking at the wrong car, you talk about cars in the 60k range and then bring in the Z.

By your added statement, you are definitely looking at the wrong car.
Nissan has a car that does that and then some, GT-R.

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ImportConvert

The GT-R just doesn't do it for me. The lazy automatic transmission and the heavy curb-weight, etc.

You are right, I am looking at hte wrong car with the 370Z, but 400bhp would make it the right car. IT frustrates me. EVERYTHING about it is perfect but for the weak paint, and the weak engine.

How much did you spend to make your car run right? Exactly how much horsepower is it making? How much did it cost to upgrade the driveline/tires/etc. so that you can put it to the ground without it breaking, and without just blowing the tires off?

CBRich

ImportConvert, I was polite in the thread that you started but I'm starting to get the feeling that you're trolling. If you are not interested in or will not own a 370 maybe you should head back to LS1Tech.com.