Poll: Do you prefer the Synchro Rev or with it Off?

LMBmikeZ · 01-25-2012, 10:32 AM

I was under the impression that the SRM is only for the down shifts. I think it has nothing to do with up shifts.

joentown · 01-25-2012, 11:13 AM

It's no gimic and it really works. A Nissan innovation that others will follow

edub370 · 01-25-2012, 11:17 AM

There should be another poll:

Of those of you that say "off" how many of you are lying so you can look like a heel-toe hero?:

-i am over 30 and can honestly heel toe with the best
-i am lying to look like a true enthusiast

elmz · 01-25-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

There should be another poll:

Of those of you that say "off" how many of you are lying so you can look like a heel-toe hero?:

-i am over 30 and can honestly heel toe with the best
-i am lying to look like a true enthusiast

LMBmikeZ · 01-25-2012, 11:30 AM

So what does being over 30 have to do with heel toe???

alcheng · 01-26-2012, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyyankfan

I agree. But with the current technology, pure manual car can no longer provide the best acceleration any more. For a lot of sports cars nowadays, the "auto" is actually faster than the "standard"

I agree your point, the technology on automatic transmission is getting very good nowadays, they shift faster, accelerate faster, excellent fuel consumption.

The auto-transmission might be 0.2-0.4s faster than a stick-shift in 0-62 under hard acceleration, but, how often do you do those kind of acceleration in real world? So that fraction of time difference in practical use means almost nothing (at least to me).

What does matter, is the enjoyment of fully control the car yourself and having fun doing heel-toe when you feel like to.

Just my $0.02, of course, you like it, use it!! But let your heel do some exercise sometimes. LOL

crazyyankfan · 01-26-2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng

I agree your point, the technology on automatic transmission is getting very good nowadays, they shift faster, accelerate faster, excellent fuel consumption.

The auto-transmission might be 0.2-0.4s faster than a stick-shift in 0-62 under hard acceleration, but, how often do you do those kind of acceleration in real world? So that fraction of time difference in practical use means almost nothing (at least to me).

What does matter, is the enjoyment of fully control the car yourself and having fun doing heel-toe when you feel like to.

Just my $0.02, of course, you like it, use it!! But let your heel do some exercise sometimes. LOL

Haha...I kinda suck as heel-toe! That's the problem. Perhaps that's why I prefer to use SRM.

edub370 · 01-25-2012, 11:32 AM

i am 23 and can honestly say that more people around my age have no idea how to do this than i imagined. however, i know plenty driving vets that can do it seemlessly. i think its almost become a lost art in the autosport world with people 30 and younger....

LMBmikeZ · 01-25-2012, 11:35 AM

Umm weird. I'm 25 and can say me a couple of my buddies can heel toe just fine. But for me I will keep my SRM on since I have it.

edub370 · 01-25-2012, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

Umm weird. I'm 25 and can say me a couple of my buddies can heel toe just fine. But for me I will keep my SRM on since I have it.

HEY i said most not all...

SPOHN · 01-25-2012, 11:41 AM

I just hope they don't come out with auto steer. Then we'll know the world really is going to sh!t.

edub370 · 01-25-2012, 11:43 AM

"i said turn left car!"

car: (in 2001: a space odyssey voice)
"I'm sorry, i can't let you do that Dave."

TheGreatOne · 01-25-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

"i said turn left car!"

car: (in 2001: a space odyssey voice)
"I'm sorry, i can't let you do that Dave."

This had me laughing

As for me, I know I can drive stick, but I am by no means an expert at heel/toe and SRM makes me feel (and sound) godly

I should take it off every now and then to practice, thats for sure...

crazyyankfan · 01-25-2012, 07:05 PM

I think a lot of people who drive a standard can to heel-toe if they actually spend time practicing. I can do it but I am not able to master the skill. My personal opinion, no matter how good you are with the skill, you can never be as precise as the computer when it comes to rev-matching.

Sure you can gain the feel about how much throttle you're supposed to give when downshifting from 3-2, for example, but you can still be 100-200 rpm off per say. Flexing of human muscles is just never meant to be "precise". Just my thoughts.

urvokbm · 01-25-2012, 08:19 PM

im 21 years old and can drive manual VERY well. I could heel-toe like a champion in my single turbo 350z when I had it. Since i've had the 370z I think I took SRM off once just to figure out how the button works. Not gonna lie, after reading this thread I turned SRM off just to see if I could still heel-toe and wow was I surprised. I'm EXTREMELY rusty, and thats an understatement. Not only did my heel-toe technique suffer, but my upshifts and my downshifts were sloppy as well. It took me a few minutes of driving before I was able to properly rev match a downshift. Needless to say, we are totally spoiled with synchro rev match. Good thing my next car will be a GTR and I wont have to worry about brushing up on my skills

View Poll Results: Do you prefer the Synchro Rev or with it Off?
SynchroRev ON	178	75.74%
SynchroRev OFF	57	24.26%
Voters: 235. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-2012, 10:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10352	I was under the impression that the SRM is only for the down shifts. I think it has nothing to do with up shifts. __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

01-25-2012, 11:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	There should be another poll: Of those of you that say "off" how many of you are lying so you can look like a heel-toe hero?: -i am over 30 and can honestly heel toe with the best -i am lying to look like a true enthusiast __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

01-25-2012, 11:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10352	So what does being over 30 have to do with heel toe??? __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

01-25-2012, 11:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	i am 23 and can honestly say that more people around my age have no idea how to do this than i imagined. however, i know plenty driving vets that can do it seemlessly. i think its almost become a lost art in the autosport world with people 30 and younger.... __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

01-25-2012, 11:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
joentown Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 70 Drives: 370Z '10 Tour Sport Rep Power: 18	It's no gimic and it really works. A Nissan innovation that others will follow

01-25-2012, 11:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10352	Umm weird. I'm 25 and can say me a couple of my buddies can heel toe just fine. But for me I will keep my SRM on since I have it. __________________ CUSTOM NISMO \| BERK \| H&R \| STANCE \| SPL everything \| EVO-R \| 34 Setrab \| WHITELINE \| Redline \| Carkitcompany \| Zspeed \| UpRev \| SEIBON

01-25-2012, 11:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 47 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 223	I just hope they don't come out with auto steer. Then we'll know the world really is going to sh!t. __________________

01-25-2012, 11:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	"i said turn left car!" car: (in 2001: a space odyssey voice) "I'm sorry, i can't let you do that Dave." __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

01-25-2012, 07:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
crazyyankfan Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 199 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 15	I think a lot of people who drive a standard can to heel-toe if they actually spend time practicing. I can do it but I am not able to master the skill. My personal opinion, no matter how good you are with the skill, you can never be as precise as the computer when it comes to rev-matching. Sure you can gain the feel about how much throttle you're supposed to give when downshifting from 3-2, for example, but you can still be 100-200 rpm off per say. Flexing of human muscles is just never meant to be "precise". Just my thoughts.

01-25-2012, 08:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
urvokbm Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 67 Drives: 09 MB 6mt Rep Power: 0	Srm on! im 21 years old and can drive manual VERY well. I could heel-toe like a champion in my single turbo 350z when I had it. Since i've had the 370z I think I took SRM off once just to figure out how the button works. Not gonna lie, after reading this thread I turned SRM off just to see if I could still heel-toe and wow was I surprised. I'm EXTREMELY rusty, and thats an understatement. Not only did my heel-toe technique suffer, but my upshifts and my downshifts were sloppy as well. It took me a few minutes of driving before I was able to properly rev match a downshift. Needless to say, we are totally spoiled with synchro rev match. Good thing my next car will be a GTR and I wont have to worry about brushing up on my skills

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