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Keep the 7AT, but those of you who think the auto is better are crazy. Sports cars other than exotic supercars who have stopped giving you a choice, should never

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Keep the 7AT, but those of you who think the auto is better are crazy. Sports cars other than exotic supercars who have stopped giving you a choice, should never be in auto. When you drive a manual you're always in control, whether its on the backroads or in rush hour. I would never have an AT in my sports car, takes all the fun out of it.
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Keep the 7AT, but those of you who think the auto is better are crazy. Sports cars other than exotic supercars who have stopped giving you a choice, should never be in auto. When you drive a manual you're always in control, whether its on the backroads or in rush hour. I would never have an AT in my sports car, takes all the fun out of it.
Obviously your comments come with no experience and you spend a lot of time on forums and just go with public opinion. There are a lot of reasons people choose manuals. But control has nothing to do with it. I have many years of using both trannies. The only thing you lose in a manual are good burnouts. Which cost u in wearing your tires down.

Nissan DRM automanual is the eptiome of slushboxes. You can engine brake, get split second shifts. (Faster than manual. And when you get enough practice. You can really surpass manual performance.
The only other advantage to manual is when modding, you cannot go past a certain horsepower without replacing the tranny. But like 95% of you, will never get passed 450rwhp so ur still good in a auto.
Paddle shifting makes things happen quicker. Engine braking is superior in the auto. (the most important control feature imho)
If you really want to feel true automanual performance. Try DCT on an M3, now going in the 135I. U say you would never do something without having any real experience. A 1 hour test drive does not let you know how capable this type of tranny is.

As far as exotics going auto. Who's gonna drive a manual @ 240mph. That's a tragedy waiting to happen. Again ignorance at its finest.
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Obviously your comments come with no experience and you spend a lot of time on forums and just go with public opinion. There are a lot of reasons people choose manuals. But control has nothing to do with it. I have many years of using both trannies. The only thing you lose in a manual are good burnouts. Which cost u in wearing your tires down.

Nissan DRM automanual is the eptiome of slushboxes. You can engine brake, get split second shifts. (Faster than manual. And when you get enough practice. You can really surpass manual performance.
The only other advantage to manual is when modding, you cannot go past a certain horsepower without replacing the tranny. But like 95% of you, will never get passed 450rwhp so ur still good in a auto.
Paddle shifting makes things happen quicker. Engine braking is superior in the auto. (the most important control feature imho)
If you really want to feel true automanual performance. Try DCT on an M3, now going in the 135I. U say you would never do something without having any real experience. A 1 hour test drive does not let you know how capable this type of tranny is.

As far as exotics going auto. Who's gonna drive a manual @ 240mph. That's a tragedy waiting to happen. Again ignorance at its finest.

For the record I've tried the paddles in both the M5 and E92 M3. In the m5 even in M mode there is still a delay. Granted it is not that long, but the second I click the paddle I want the downshift immediately not .000923432 milliseconds later. If I can tell and feel the delay it fails. The E92 M3 has a great great box but you still feel detached. It takes all driver ability out of the race, 1/4 mile runs have been reduced to putting your foot down and pressing a paddle. If that's the case it's more about who spent more on their car since the car is doing all the work not you. Slushboxes offer consistency, you won't get any driver error. However, you lose the fun factor. If you are going to tell me that it's more fun to have a computer control your shifts and rpms you're crazy. You don't even have to heel/toe in a manual anymore now that SRM is available. Lastly, women drive auto's, if you meet a girl who drives stick you'll walk away impressed because you know she goes against the grain. We're not talking about Ferrari's, Lambo's or any other supercar we're talking about normal enthusiast cars. I guess it's best phrased as the guy who drives the paddle shift will be a bit faster but the guy behind him in the stick will have a lot more fun.
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