Question on trade back my auto Z to a manual

Jeffblue · 05-13-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall

If I didn't have a hard time controlling the car, I wouldn't be having any fun would I? I drove away shaking from the insane adrenaline rush! If I wanted an easy time, I'd floor it in a straight line.

Oh and if you keep both your hands on the steering wheel all the time as you say, how do you shift

the idea is, you can shift quickly enough to not have your hand off the wheel for any significant amount of time. Unlike the automatic, you get to stay in one gear for as long as you need, as opposed to the car deciding you should shift..... like: NOW... ok NOW again... ok i think you might be on a hill, let me downshift for you... oh wait, that hill was shorter than i thought... i'll go back to the higher gear." - Your transmission

you should watch some videos of actual race car drivers driving their cars. you'll see that its only a split second of removing their hand from the wheel.

nothing wrong with people wanting one transmission over the other, its all opinion. however, some of these anti manual transmission arguments are pretty ridiculous, and make it quite evident that the person has NO idea whats at play in a manual transmission, so they clearly could not have made an informed decision about which one they purchased. (this is not a dig at those who drive automatics, just those who have these absurd reasons for why they think manuals are more dangerous, slow, stupid, pointless, etc)

Lug · 05-13-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

the idea is, you can shift quickly enough to not have your hand off the wheel for any significant amount of time. Unlike the automatic, you get to stay in one gear for as long as you need, as opposed to the car deciding you should shift..... like: NOW... ok NOW again... ok i think you might be on a hill, let me downshift for you... oh wait, that hill was shorter than i thought... i'll go back to the higher gear." - Your transmission

you should watch some videos of actual race car drivers driving their cars. you'll see that its only a split second of removing their hand from the wheel.

nothing wrong with people wanting one transmission over the other, its all opinion. however, some of these anti manual transmission arguments are pretty ridiculous, and make it quite evident that the person has NO idea whats at play in a manual transmission, so they clearly could not have made an informed decision about which one they purchased. (this is not a dig at those who drive automatics, just those who have these absurd reasons for why they think manuals are more dangerous, slow, stupid, pointless, etc)

I think you need to read up on how the manual mode tiptronics actually works. The transmission stays in whatever gear you put it in unless you get ouside the operational limits of the tranny.

Jeffblue · 05-13-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I think you need to read up on how the manual mode tiptronics actually works. The transmission stays in whatever gear you put it in unless you get ouside the operational limits of the tranny.

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

I would say its all a matter of choice but most dont always use the paddles. I go auto untill I want to do some spirited passing, then I go manual. Now I wish they would have a sport mode auto too which would shift more aggressively than regular auto. And I can tell you I have had plenty of manuals and can use a clutch but I like not having to and getting way faster shifts. I would also like to see the DSG in the Z, they shift like lightning.

Lug · 05-13-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

You're making the assumption that people who buy the auto are anti changing gears all the time or vice-versa. The point of the auto with tip is that you have one extra choice. Early Tiptronics did tend to suck but the new one in the 370z may be the best one ever made. Certainly one of the few that can match a manual for speed. "Feel" was hardly ever mentioned when Autos were always slower, it was always about the time back then. As auto's got as good or better in accel times, that "focus" seems to have changed. For me, the number one reason to buy a manula is less for "feel" and more for upgradeability. It's a whole lot easier to buoild a manual tranny for big extra hp numbers than an auto.

Jeffblue · 05-13-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

You're making the assumption that people who buy the auto are anti changing gears all the time or vice-versa. The point of the auto with tip is that you have one extra choice. Early Tiptronics did tend to suck but the new one in the 370z may be the best one ever made. Certainly one of the few that can match a manual for speed. "Feel" was hardly ever mentioned when Autos were always slower, it was always about the time back then. As auto's got as good or better in accel times, that "focus" seems to have changed. For me, the number one reason to buy a manula is less for "feel" and more for upgradeability. It's a whole lot easier to buoild a manual tranny for big extra hp numbers than an auto.

i'm not saying all people that drive auto do that. i'm talking about the ones who say 'OMG how can you change gears and not crash into a tree if you. i got an auto b/c i didn't want to die as a result of losing total control of the car for the 1 second my hand wasn't on the wheel while changing gears.

Lug · 05-13-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i'm not saying all people that drive auto do that. i'm talking about the ones who say 'OMG how can you change gears and not crash into a tree if you. i got an auto b/c i didn't want to die as a result of losing total control of the car for the 1 second my hand wasn't on the wheel while changing gears.

Tha's idiotic. I drive with one hand on the wheel and the other hand holding my whiskey bottle and I got no problems at all!

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