Nissan Co. claims that state law instructs them....

IDZRVIT · 03-29-2010, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

California Vehicle Code

11713.17. (a) Following the retail sale or lease of a motor vehicle
for which the department issues two license plates, a dealer may not
deliver the motor vehicle unless either of the following occurs:
(1) The motor vehicle is equipped with a bracket or other means of
securing a front license plate.
(2) The dealer obtains a signed written acknowledgment from the
person taking delivery of the motor vehicle acknowledging both of the
following:
(A) The person expressly refused installation of a bracket or
other means of securing the front license plate.
(B) The person understands that California law requires a license
plate to be displayed from and securely fastened to the front of the
motor vehicle and that the hardware necessary to securely fasten the
front plate is available from the dealer.
(b) A manufacturer or distributor may not sell or distribute in
this state a new motor vehicle for which the department issues two
license plates, unless that motor vehicle is equipped or provided
with a bracket or other means of securing the license plates.

I can't find any thing about license plate holes.

OP, does your state have a vehicle code like this? If it does, then it looks like the dealer not only followed the law but also the proper plate frame installation instructions from Nissan. I guess Nissan figures that once the front plate is installed, it covers the two bumper holes and will go unnoticed. Well, I guess, but that is just a poor plate frame design, Nissan!

40th370z · 03-29-2010, 06:05 PM

I called my dealer rep today , on delivery of my Z ,he said the front plate bracket is in the trunk,he said he planned on leaving it there,the guy is smart enough to know there are after market brackets,even though front plates are required in BC.He also said they wouldn't be sticking a Dealership sticker on the car,the rear plate bracket has the dealerships name on it.

I've been running my Titan for 5 years in BC without a plate up front,fortunately I live near the Alberta boarder an they don't require front plates,so the local cops see so many vehicles without a front plate.

Some how I think the new 40t th Z in town will turn a few heads,including the local law enforcement.If I'm lucky I ll get a few weeks without a front plate,maybe another after they catch on an I tell them I have an after market one coming.

PapoZalsa · 03-29-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370

I'm confused. Did your car come with the holes already drilled? Mine didn't (I'm in California). It does however have the two little dimples where one would drill according to the manufacturers specs as you have posted up here.

Where's the dillemna here?

YES, they were already drill. I didn't find out until I removed the front license plate to removed the stupid dealer frame.

And the dilema is that if I move back to Florida I'm stuck with a front license plate holder when the states doesn't requires a plate on the front.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextbesthing

Why didn't you just ask them to not mount the front bracket, and when they said no proceed to the next dealership. I live in NJ which requires the front plate and I simply asked them not to mount the front bracket and it was not a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Your dealer is an idiot, it's as simple as that.....Personally I would have refused the car.

I didn't now about the freaking holes!!! I have bought a lot of cars in states with front license plate and would not suspect that to mount a front license plate holder they would drill 1" holes on the bumper.

PapoZalsa · 03-31-2010, 08:20 PM

I received good news from the dealer Service Manager today where I purchased my car. Nissan Co. called them and authorized them to get a new bumper for my car because of the holes they drill on.

It took me since November 09 complaining and contactinf everyone I could, but it was worth it. I will keep you guys posted. I know the dealer is going to give me a pos Altima to drive while the car is in the body shop.

Thanks for the support of some of you guys!

theDreamer · 03-31-2010, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I received good news from the dealer Service Manager today where I purchased my car. Nissan Co. called them and authorized them to get a new bumper for my car because of the holes they drill on.

It took me since November 09 complaining and contactinf everyone I could, but it was worth it. I will keep you guys posted. I know the dealer is going to give me a pos Altima to drive while the car is in the body shop.

Thanks for the support of some of you guys!

Care to run some numbers for us, break the car in a bit?

Mize · 03-31-2010, 08:27 PM

Great news. Congrats.

dad · 03-31-2010, 08:32 PM

Congratulations, you won!

esfourteen · 03-31-2010, 08:40 PM

Great news about the bumper! My state requires that you have a front license plate as well, so the day I went to pickup the car I told the dealer I wouldn't purchase it if they drilled into the bumper. They just handed me the bracket and front plate =)

TipsZ · 04-01-2010, 08:01 AM

Congratz! This sounds like the first time that Nissan has really gone the extra mile to satisfy their customers... too bad we can't get them to address some other minor concerns.

PapoZalsa · 04-03-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TipsZ

Congratz! This sounds like the first time that Nissan has really gone the extra mile to satisfy their customers... too bad we can't get them to address some other minor concerns.

Nissan did not go the extra mile, believe me! I did go the extra mile by contacting everyone that I could over a period of over 3 months including Nissan North America and Nissan Co. of Southeast.

They will not do anything for you unless you complain, complain and complain about the problem you are having.

Again, if you have any issues/concerns contact them using the email address that I provided or the Discussion Board in Facebook (Nissan North America).

kfscoll · 04-03-2010, 10:01 PM

I bought my car brand new in Ohio (which requires a front plate) and my front plate bracket was in the trunk when I took delivery. There weren't any holes drilled, either. However, since the holes are in the black part of the bumper, couldn't you just plug them with black plugs or something? They really shouldn't be that noticeable.

That being said, I'm not planning to put the front plate on my Z. I'll take the ticket, thank you very much.

Mike@Blackline · 04-04-2010, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

I has an idea.

Get a portable drill. Get a 1" hole saw.

Go to the dealership that put the hole in your car.

Proceed to put 1" holes in all the Nissan vehicles on the lot, to match how they did yours.

epic

PapoZalsa · 04-04-2010, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfscoll

I bought my car brand new in Ohio (which requires a front plate) and my front plate bracket was in the trunk when I took delivery. There weren't any holes drilled, either. However, since the holes are in the black part of the bumper, couldn't you just plug them with black plugs or something? They really shouldn't be that noticeable.

Take a look at the picture (comment #17) that on this thread. The holes are around 1" in diameter on the bumper, not the black part.

If the holes were in the black part I wouldn't go thru all this when they can be plugged.

kfscoll · 04-04-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Take a look at the picture (comment #17) that on this thread. The holes are around 1" in diameter on the bumper, not the black part.

If the holes were in the black part I wouldn't go thru all this when they can be plugged.

Whoops, missed that. You're right, that's completely insane. I'd have gone straight into orbit.

Zfish · 04-04-2010, 02:52 PM

I'm in California and the dealer never mentioned anything about the front plate mount. I found the hardware in the trunk in a plastic bag. I've opted not to mount it until a cop tells me too. In the meantime I ordered the Stillen mount because I am not going to drill holes in the front of my brand new car.

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40th370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 134 Drives: 2010-370z-40th Ann. Rep Power: 297	I called my dealer rep today , on delivery of my Z ,he said the front plate bracket is in the trunk,he said he planned on leaving it there,the guy is smart enough to know there are after market brackets,even though front plates are required in BC.He also said they wouldn't be sticking a Dealership sticker on the car,the rear plate bracket has the dealerships name on it. I've been running my Titan for 5 years in BC without a plate up front,fortunately I live near the Alberta boarder an they don't require front plates,so the local cops see so many vehicles without a front plate. Some how I think the new 40t th Z in town will turn a few heads,including the local law enforcement.If I'm lucky I ll get a few weeks without a front plate,maybe another after they catch on an I tell them I have an after market one coming.

03-31-2010, 08:27 PM	#36 (permalink)
Mize Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 144 Drives: '10 370zr rg tsn m6 Rep Power: 15	Great news. Congrats.

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esfourteen A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,375 Drives: 40th TT Rep Power: 18	Great news about the bumper! My state requires that you have a front license plate as well, so the day I went to pickup the car I told the dealer I wouldn't purchase it if they drilled into the bumper. They just handed me the bracket and front plate =)

04-03-2010, 10:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
kfscoll Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 86 Drives: 09 370Z BS T/S/N 6MT Rep Power: 15	I bought my car brand new in Ohio (which requires a front plate) and my front plate bracket was in the trunk when I took delivery. There weren't any holes drilled, either. However, since the holes are in the black part of the bumper, couldn't you just plug them with black plugs or something? They really shouldn't be that noticeable. That being said, I'm not planning to put the front plate on my Z. I'll take the ticket, thank you very much.

04-04-2010, 02:52 PM	#45 (permalink)
Zfish Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Marina, CA Posts: 24 Drives: 2010 370z roadster Rep Power: 15	I'm in California and the dealer never mentioned anything about the front plate mount. I found the hardware in the trunk in a plastic bag. I've opted not to mount it until a cop tells me too. In the meantime I ordered the Stillen mount because I am not going to drill holes in the front of my brand new car.