2020 Z....opinions

HEK · 05-17-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z was one of the greatest sports cars of its generation. 2009-2014. The 2015 Nismo should have just been the 2015 Z. The price should have been lowered to $42k for a nav model and that one model sold. It was the closest thing to being the next model up.

If we were gonna keep the lower units? I think the sport model should've heen the base model by 2015 for base pricing and the touring model should have remained with the sport pkg for$35k. No more base model. That would've kinda made more of a business case to elevate sales volume and overall enthusiasm for the Z while destroying the business case for selling such a weak powered FRS, thus forcing Toyota to build a more powerful FRS and work harder for a higher hp supra. Like 400hp.

On Japan's side the hp wars are over which kinda crippled the jdm sports car industry.

While the Z is still an awesome car and the GTR is the best OVERPRICED car on the market. I think Nissan and japan as a whole have been a disappointment.

I'm grateful for the supra but I'm hoping this car sells well and morphs into something grand.

I hope Nissan is honest in saying they will build an in house Z without aid of another company and show us that they still love heritage.

So in my conclusion. While I believe the Z34 itself is one of the best sports cars of the millennium. It's also outdated, outgunned and outperformed by very generic vehicles at this point. It's lasted too long. We need something competitive.

Well I'm glad I'm an old fart who owns an antiquated vehicle that runs great and still turns heads and best of all has a standard transmission

Inspector71 · 07-23-2019, 06:19 PM

That more and more women either buy cars and/or have a say in what their hubbies buy and the females don't want a standard transmission. He flat out told me the female consumer has killed the stick and, in order to remain competitive, they are following the trend. For female fans of sticks, and those who know them, your beef is with Nissan, not me. I spoke with the general manager, service personnel, and other employees who are fans of the Z and they all repeated the same story. Next door is a Mazda dealer. I went there to snag the last pieces for Mazda Rx7s they had hidden in some long forgotten corner (my son's 84) and brought this topic up. They all agreed that what the Nissan folks said is indeed true. Buy one while you still can.

Ommateal · 05-19-2019, 11:20 PM

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

HEK · 05-20-2019, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ommateal

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

.......and they are expensive based on the price of the vehicle w/out navi or sports package...

Desert Rat · 05-28-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ommateal

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

They were building Z31s when I was a teenager....lol

abm89 · 05-28-2019, 04:09 PM

Since we're on opinions here, I think they should just kill the Z. No one is buying them, and they're not looking like they are going to put the VR30 in the car. I get that it's a last "analog" car with it's manual transmission, port injection, and basic gauges, but at some point, the car itself is just plain outdated.

If I were in the market for a sports car now, I'd likely get a Supra. I'd go for the overall balance of performance and core experience of the car as a whole vs looking at features. Give me a base model with only the "performance" upgrades and i'm ready to go. I would likely modify it anyway, and I love how Toyota has set it up to do that; reinforced trunk lid, air flow that can be unblocked when necessary, and early access to the tuning companies (who already have some parts in working prototypes for the car). There would be no way I would even consider buying a new Z.

I care more about how the car over/understeers way more than whether I have to use a clutch to change gears, but It's all down to your priorities. You either adapt or get left behind.

Lvcky69 · 05-31-2019, 11:16 AM

yeah, i wouldn't go for the 2020. They haven't changed anything, same cluster, etc. Nowadays every car has a digital cluster. The cluster on the Z looks outdated compared to other cars. Thankfully I already have another car if I were to sell the Z to get a different car. I'm thinking of 16-17 vette grand sport

Tractionless · 07-07-2019, 02:06 PM

Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z.

StormWhite · 07-07-2019, 04:22 PM

I am not trying to be be defensive but the 370Z is still one of the best looking cars IMHO.

nis350 · 07-10-2019, 12:17 AM

I too think the 370z is a beautiful car, but it is hard to convince new car buyers to fork out $40k when you can get a nice used one for about $20k. I hope there will be another iteration of the Z, but it's quite doubtful from the economic stand points. There is no profit in the sport car market. Everyone is buying the cross-overs, suv's and EV's.

on a different point, Just read the test results on the new Supra in 'car and driver' magazine. It looks really nice and fast. It is a bit wider and longer than the z. 1/4 mile time at 12.3 sec, and 0 to 60mph at 3.8 sec. MSRP at $55k. There will probably be $10k markups, but it'll be interested when the hype/price cool down next year or so.

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Originally Posted by StormWhite

I am not trying to be be defensive but the 370Z is still one of the best looking cars IMHO.

/Angelo350Z/ · 07-10-2019, 02:57 AM

Despite its age, the Z's exterior styling still turns heads. It's the standard equipment that shows the car's age and turns potential buyers away. Driving the Z and my wife's F30 back-to-back really is night and day. The BMW's intuitive touch screen, excellent backup camera, various driving modes, and all the other sh!t people want but don't need actually make it an enjoyable cruiser. It's not fast by any means, but enough to put a smile on my face. I wish Nissan made incremental improvements to the Z over the years to keep it more competitive such as sound deadening, slight increase in power, better infotainment system, etc., instead of just slapping on some decals.

nis350 · 07-10-2019, 10:34 AM

you're right on.... new car buyers want something new regardless of the 'need'. I have the full loaded version of Z and like the interior just fine.... but it is quite dated compared to the newer cars.

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/

Despite its age, the Z's exterior styling still turns heads. It's the standard equipment that shows the car's age and turns potential buyers away. Driving the Z and my wife's F30 back-to-back really is night and day. The BMW's intuitive touch screen, excellent backup camera, various driving modes, and all the other sh!t people want but don't need actually make it an enjoyable cruiser.

vtec to vvel · 07-09-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HEK

Being retired and bored, I just went to the Nissan site and tried to build an exact vehicle like mine and to my surprise, there are no Sport /Touring with manual transmissions....why? ( I know most of you will say...."because Nissan can").
I think that should increase the value of those of us who have manuals, sports/ touring, don't you think so.
Personally, I wouldn't replace my vehicle with a newer one if all I could only get was with an automatic transmission, just my opinion.

Though having a manual tranny will not increase the market value of the vehicle, I do believe it will increase the sentimental value and people will pay top dollar and way more than what it’s worth if equipped with a manual tranny. I think the 370Z will fall into this category.

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

All manual transmission sports cars will be sought after and desirable in the future.

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I can speak from experience on this. I went from a 6MT 350Z to a 7AT 370Z and now a 6MT 370Z bc I missed the manual tranny so much.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

There will always be a group that will want a manual trans. But that group seems to be getting smaller and smaller as time goes on.

In the past, the three main reasons to buy a manual were: greater durability, more gas mileage, and more fun. New autos have all but done away with the first two. Laziness is working on number three.

I've gotten pretty lazy - I haven't had a manual vehicle in about a decade (last one was a '67 Mustang that I sold to make room for the 2009 Z I had).

There is a meme out there with a picture of a manual gearbox and labeled as “the best anti-theft system”.

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Originally Posted by HEK

You can still get the Nismo with all the touring and sports goodies with a stick...maybe they needed to increase the Nismo sales...

I think Nissan made a mistake producing auto Nismo models. Honda doesn’t even make auto for their Si lineup.

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z.

it’s a bmw badged under a Toyota. I personally am not a fan of German cars.

axmea? · 07-08-2019, 01:20 AM

Nissan will put out a Z34 with a VR30DDTT call it a 300ZTT and then kill the program.

abm89 · 07-08-2019, 10:26 AM

Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point.

If I had excessive amounts of money, I'd go for a 718 GT4.

07-23-2019, 06:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 16	The local dealer told me... That more and more women either buy cars and/or have a say in what their hubbies buy and the females don't want a standard transmission. He flat out told me the female consumer has killed the stick and, in order to remain competitive, they are following the trend. For female fans of sticks, and those who know them, your beef is with Nissan, not me. I spoke with the general manager, service personnel, and other employees who are fans of the Z and they all repeated the same story. Next door is a Mazda dealer. I went there to snag the last pieces for Mazda Rx7s they had hidden in some long forgotten corner (my son's 84) and brought this topic up. They all agreed that what the Nissan folks said is indeed true. Buy one while you still can.

05-19-2019, 11:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ommateal Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Dover, Ohio. Age: 38 Posts: 209 Drives: 2010 370z sport 6m Rep Power: 10	I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though. StormWhite likes this. __________________ Red 370z Sport 6m Mods: Stillen 25 row Race Oil cooler\|FIXED ESCL\|Muffler delete\|TEIN Springs\|Tint\|Varrstoen ES2 Rims\|NRG Stealth Knob\|Kenwood touchscreen\|

05-28-2019, 04:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,390 Drives: 11 370Z, 2x Kawasaki Rep Power: 64764	Since we're on opinions here, I think they should just kill the Z. No one is buying them, and they're not looking like they are going to put the VR30 in the car. I get that it's a last "analog" car with it's manual transmission, port injection, and basic gauges, but at some point, the car itself is just plain outdated. If I were in the market for a sports car now, I'd likely get a Supra. I'd go for the overall balance of performance and core experience of the car as a whole vs looking at features. Give me a base model with only the "performance" upgrades and i'm ready to go. I would likely modify it anyway, and I love how Toyota has set it up to do that; reinforced trunk lid, air flow that can be unblocked when necessary, and early access to the tuning companies (who already have some parts in working prototypes for the car). There would be no way I would even consider buying a new Z. I care more about how the car over/understeers way more than whether I have to use a clutch to change gears, but It's all down to your priorities. You either adapt or get left behind. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

07-07-2019, 02:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,357 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30526	Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z. critical and StormWhite like this. __________________ Toys Not Tots

07-07-2019, 04:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
StormWhite Base Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 225 Drives: 2017 370Z Coupe Rep Power: 74894	I am not trying to be be defensive but the 370Z is still one of the best looking cars IMHO. HEK, PaulZ370, axmea? and 5 others like this.

05-31-2019, 11:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lvcky69 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Miami Posts: 385 Drives: 17 370z & 16 911 S Rep Power: 3923	yeah, i wouldn't go for the 2020. They haven't changed anything, same cluster, etc. Nowadays every car has a digital cluster. The cluster on the Z looks outdated compared to other cars. Thankfully I already have another car if I were to sell the Z to get a different car. I'm thinking of 16-17 vette grand sport

07-10-2019, 02:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3661	Despite its age, the Z's exterior styling still turns heads. It's the standard equipment that shows the car's age and turns potential buyers away. Driving the Z and my wife's F30 back-to-back really is night and day. The BMW's intuitive touch screen, excellent backup camera, various driving modes, and all the other sh!t people want but don't need actually make it an enjoyable cruiser. It's not fast by any means, but enough to put a smile on my face. I wish Nissan made incremental improvements to the Z over the years to keep it more competitive such as sound deadening, slight increase in power, better infotainment system, etc., instead of just slapping on some decals. __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

07-08-2019, 01:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	Nissan will put out a Z34 with a VR30DDTT call it a 300ZTT and then kill the program. Rusty and abm89 like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

07-08-2019, 10:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,390 Drives: 11 370Z, 2x Kawasaki Rep Power: 64764	Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point. If I had excessive amounts of money, I'd go for a 718 GT4. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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