GT500 vs 370Z

Red370 · 01-04-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Its always about the money. If I had more I would have got the Z w/sport/touring and have some for the nice SC. As it is the SCs will probably be out of my range for now as I am taking a new job in Ft. Bliss, TX that starts off with less money than I was making but I will advance quicker. Right now Im unemployed for the last 2 weeks as the contract I was working under is done and didnt get renewed. So now I will be Civil Service (federal) at Bliss.

Hey bro, before you get here, lemme extend a cordial invitation to come ride with us, we have a Z club here and usually get a pretty big turnout.

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when do you get here btw?

Zsteve · 01-04-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Hey bro, before you get here, lemme extend a cordial invitation to come ride with us, we have a Z club here and usually get a pretty big turnout.

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when do you get here btw?

Sounds good, there isnt anything here for Z clubs at all, kinda boring. Should be there in a couple of weeks but I will be coming back to GA for some training on and off.

j.arnaldo · 01-04-2010, 12:16 PM

Thanks, Dreamer. There are enough engine configurations in Mustangs to confuse an old man like me! Although there are many variables involved (hp, torque, MT vs AT, ability of the driver, tires, etc.), I'm confused when "sixes" are compared to "eights", MTs to ATs, and so on. Thanks again.

frost · 01-04-2010, 09:21 PM

370z versus a gt500? We might as well start comparing the 370 to kites, or hot sauce, or yoga balls.
What I'm saying is, they are a little far apart to bother comparing.

Zsteve · 01-04-2010, 09:35 PM

Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen.

KillerBee370 · 01-04-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen.

Saleen! Oh gag me. Saleens are for greasy Persians or trailer bro's with 3 cell phones, gold chains and that eternal dumbsh*t look on their face. If you're going to own any sh!tstang, at least make it a Roush. You're right about one thing, Mustangs are way too common.

m4a1mustang · 01-04-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

Saleen! Oh gag me. Saleens are for greasy Persians or trailer bro's with 3 cell phones, gold chains and that eternal dumbsh*t look on their face. If you're going to own any sh!tstang, at least make it a Roush. You're right about one thing, Mustangs are way too common.

Wow.

KillerBee370 · 01-04-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Wow.

Haha..

It's a strong possibility that he drives an M3 also.

Lug · 01-04-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen.

When compared head to head on the same track the current Mustang and 370Z run within .1 of each other in both 0-60 and Quarter mile. The delivery and feel are totally different, but the times are what they are. Next year's Mustang is gonna add about 100 ponies to the mix, Z won't be anywhere near it at the track unless Ford screws the pooch and adds a megashiteton of weight like The Camaro and Challenger have. Z will be better at short track stuff like autocross but the track is out againt a 2011 Mustang without FI. I'll still take a 370Z over the new mustang any day of the week, but lets not kid ourselves about what each is good at.

Zsteve · 01-05-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

When compared head to head on the same track the current Mustang and 370Z run within .1 of each other in both 0-60 and Quarter mile. The delivery and feel are totally different, but the times are what they are. Next year's Mustang is gonna add about 100 ponies to the mix, Z won't be anywhere near it at the track unless Ford screws the pooch and adds a megashiteton of weight like The Camaro and Challenger have. Z will be better at short track stuff like autocross but the track is out againt a 2011 Mustang without FI. I'll still take a 370Z over the new mustang any day of the week, but lets not kid ourselves about what each is good at.

Is that what you saw or are reading. The 09 GT should only run around 5.1 to 60 from what I can find, now I havent been to a track to see just research. All the car companies are gonna up thier power every few yrs to keep up with the Jones, so dont be surprised to see the Z (and other cars) up HP in a couple of yrs too, its a cycle. A neighbor a fews houses down has a Saleen and it looks pretty cool and they are not Persians or Bling Bling guys, just mustang nuts. Most regular GTs here are driven by females so the guys have to get the GT500s or Saleens, etc to not be driving a girls car now.

Slynky · 01-05-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Is that what you saw or are reading. The 09 GT should only run around 5.1 to 60 from what I can find, now I havent been to a track to see just research. All the car companies are gonna up thier power every few yrs to keep up with the Jones, so dont be surprised to see the Z (and other cars) up HP in a couple of yrs too, its a cycle. A neighbor a fews houses down has a Saleen and it looks pretty cool and they are not Persians or Bling Bling guys, just mustang nuts. Most regular GTs here are driven by females so the guys have to get the GT500s or Saleens, etc to not be driving a girls car now.

Well, the homophobic pussys !!! LOL

Lug · 01-05-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Is that what you saw or are reading. The 09 GT should only run around 5.1 to 60 from what I can find, now I havent been to a track to see just research. All the car companies are gonna up thier power every few yrs to keep up with the Jones, so dont be surprised to see the Z (and other cars) up HP in a couple of yrs too, its a cycle. A neighbor a fews houses down has a Saleen and it looks pretty cool and they are not Persians or Bling Bling guys, just mustang nuts. Most regular GTs here are driven by females so the guys have to get the GT500s or Saleens, etc to not be driving a girls car now.

Edmunds (I know, not the best butat least it was head to head) did a recent test where they were identical plus if you do a dragtimes compare between stock 2010 Mustangs and 370Z they are a mixed bag except for one really quick 370Z. Most fall in the 13.3 to 13.7 range. It makes since because the 370Z has a few more ponies and a little less weight but the 'stang has gobs more torque. I'd expect the 370Z to pull away on the top end a bit. Next year the 'stang is a total game changer on any straight line stuff if the weight stays in control. Camaros and Challengers are gonna get their asses handed to them. I know what you mean by upping HP through the cycle, but we're talking 100 HP in one fell swoop. That kinda bump isn't what you normally see in the same model.

EDIT: I just realized you're talking about a 2009 Mustang. I was talking about the current one which is a noticeable improvement over the older model.

ZKindaGuy · 01-05-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

When compared head to head on the same track the current Mustang and 370Z run within .1 of each other in both 0-60 and Quarter mile. The delivery and feel are totally different, but the times are what they are. Next year's Mustang is gonna add about 100 ponies to the mix, Z won't be anywhere near it at the track unless Ford screws the pooch and adds a megashiteton of weight like The Camaro and Challenger have. Z will be better at short track stuff like autocross but the track is out againt a 2011 Mustang without FI. I'll still take a 370Z over the new mustang any day of the week, but lets not kid ourselves about what each is good at.

But....but.....but.....ZSteve says he's KILLING GT's all the time......

ZKindaGuy · 01-05-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen.

If the GT's are prior to 2005 and your starting from a dig then I would believe you are "killing" GT's. But if the GT's are 2007 through 2009 I think you need to explain what you mean by "killing" because you certainly aren't "killing" them nor are you leaving them looking like their standing still. In 2007 the stock GT Vert had 3.55 gears and the coup 3.31 gears. In 2008 the Vert had stock 3.55 gears and the coup had stock 3.55 upon request at time of ordering. The 2009 GT Verts and Coups were running 3.55 gears stock. The 2007 GT Coups going to Shelby to be converted to Shelby GT's came from Ford with 3.31 gears but Shelby swapped them out for 3.55. Upon request and paying the net part cost difference 4.10's would be put in by Shelby. In short with the 3.55 or 4.10 gears you were NOT "killing" GT's running those gears. 3.55 would be head-to-head. With 4.10's the GT Mustang would be starting to pull away from you.

Sorry dude but I have owned and raced GT's, 350Z and 370Z and I will say you aren't "killing" GT's

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m4a1mustang · 01-05-2010, 07:37 PM

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If the GT's are prior to 2005 and your starting from a dig then I would believe you are "killing" GT's. But if the GT's are 2005 through 2009 I think you need to explain what you mean by "killing" because you certainly aren't killing them nor are you leaving them looking like their standing still.

Sorry dude but I have owned and raced GT's, 350Z and 370Z and I will say you are full of pure

You aren't "killing" GT's.

I had an 03 that ran 13.9-14.0 stock. 4.10 gears dropped that to 13.5. The 370 would ultimately pull it, but I can say without a doubt that my GT was quicker than my Z from a dig. From a roll would be another story, though, as we are talking 332+ to around 270hp.

As far as superchargers go, you can order your new 2010 GT with a blower. It's a FRPP kit that is usually dealer-installed before you take delivery. It's fully tuned and warranty supported.

01-04-2010, 09:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

01-04-2010, 12:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, Dreamer. There are enough engine configurations in Mustangs to confuse an old man like me! Although there are many variables involved (hp, torque, MT vs AT, ability of the driver, tires, etc.), I'm confused when "sixes" are compared to "eights", MTs to ATs, and so on. Thanks again.

01-04-2010, 09:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	370z versus a gt500? We might as well start comparing the 370 to kites, or hot sauce, or yoga balls. What I'm saying is, they are a little far apart to bother comparing.