This Soon To Be GT3 Killer Is Everything A New Z Owner Should Be Excited About!

dropped1 · 12-18-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

LOL all of my directions in Japan were like that. "See X building, turn left, then go X distance to this next landmark". Kinda fun how Akihabara is the waypoint here...some of you might know what I mean.

I like the shop...very homely

haha I know exactly what you mean...after all I've been living in Japan for three years now. I think I'm actually going to go to the shop, maybe see if I can get a ride!(would totally be badass) The question is, I wonder how his english is because my japanese is horrible.

I don't see how that is "rice" only place I've been where you see rampant "rice" is the United States...but no need to start this debate.

Red370 · 12-18-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBoy

Add in the investment loss when you sell the thing for half what you put into it and you're at the cost of a GT3. There, we're done.

uh, this is a shop car fella, probably not going to be sold, and I'm sure they can handle a loss, the point of the article is that the car is being built for time attack and will compete with the elite, I think you're getting way off track with your logic.

BLUESLATE · 12-19-2009, 03:17 AM

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footwork & chassis zeal front 14kg x-coilovers with mcr function a shock absorbers; zeal rear x-coilovers 18kg with mcr function a shock absorbers

brakes endless 6-piston monocoque front calipers with 370mm rotors and rear pads

i want... Nowwwww!!!!

RedComet · 12-19-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dropped1

haha I know exactly what you mean...after all I've been living in Japan for three years now. I think I'm actually going to go to the shop, maybe see if I can get a ride!(would totally be badass) The question is, I wonder how his english is because my japanese is horrible.

I don't see how that is "rice" only place I've been where you see rampant "rice" is the United States...but no need to start this debate.

The sad part is you can't explain that to people. It's pure hatred of JDM culture and tuning.

m4a1mustang · 12-19-2009, 12:06 PM

When I say rice, I say rice whereby rice = tacky.

It looks tacky. My opinion. That's it.

And I grew up in Japan so spare me the nonsense about not respecting JDM.

initialgemini · 12-19-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBoy

This is a neat engineering exercise but it's a foregone conclusion that you can make just about any reasonably focused car faster than a more expensive, even more focused car by throwing money at it. It's just a question of whether it's remotely worth the time and effort.

Yes you are correct. Spending the cost of the car to modify it so it can compete with a gt3 is probably beyond most people's budget. Worth the time and effort? Well apparently for this shop it is.

If we're looking at a race application as in this issue, a gt3 costs significantly more in regards to parts and maintenance. The newer Porsche cars aren't as simple to work on as a Nissan. If this 370 has every intention to be tracked and competed, you have platform with cheaper parts. Cheaper parts makes the 370z a more flexible platform to modify than a gt3.

But hands down, if I had 112K that I intended on spending on car, I would pick up a gt3 over a heavily modded 370z in heart beat.

nicknick · 12-20-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

What the F are you talking about? Engine in the worst place? explain... Looks shittier than the Z? lol you are on one... but sure...

I agree with him, the engine is not in the best postion it can be, i believe the Zed does look better. And yes the Porsche does look like it was designed 50 years ago, can't they come up with a new shape. So what the **** are you talking about.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

I agree with him, the engine is not in the best postion it can be, i believe the Zed does look better. And yes the Porsche does look like it was designed 50 years ago, can't they come up with a new shape. So what the **** are you talking about.

Because they got it right from the start. The 911 shape is an evolution.

Can't they come up with a new shape? Why did Nissan have to go back and source lines from the 240 for the 370?

spearfish25 · 12-20-2009, 07:37 PM

If they'd just paint the whole car red instead of having all the off color pieces, it would look more legit.

motoextreme · 12-21-2009, 09:56 PM

That was an interesting read...

I've driven a GT3, you think the Nismo is a bad street car that GT3 is a skateboard! Bumpy as all hell, loud as can be but still a bad *** car just the same. Comparing a 30-40K car to a 115K car just doesnt add up.

Regardless of what car you prefer, I would much rather take that 115K and buy a Touring Z and a track Z. Plus have $ to fix them both up.

We had an older Turbo (02 996TT). It was a WONDERFUL car and as much as I love my Z, you can't compare. But again...we're talking about MUCH more $$$$ and when my warranty expired terribly pricey to keep up.

If things go well, I'd like to have both but it wouldnt be a GT3, that's a rich mans track car and definitely not a fun daily driver. Just my 2 cents..

Pharmacist · 12-22-2009, 12:20 PM

why does the gt3 always come up as the top of the line ultimate porsche? the gt2 has more power, and posts faster laptimes yet no one ever mentions it?

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

why does the gt3 always come up as the top of the line ultimate porsche? the gt2 has more power, and posts faster laptimes yet no one ever mentions it?

I would rather have a NA car then a turbo car.

motoextreme · 12-22-2009, 01:30 PM

You're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it?

JonBoy · 12-22-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

uh, this is a shop car fella, probably not going to be sold, and I'm sure they can handle a loss, the point of the article is that the car is being built for time attack and will compete with the elite, I think you're getting way off track with your logic.

So you think this heavily modified car is going to go up against a STOCK GT3 in a Time Attack series?

Shop cars are almost always sold eventually, primarily because they want to get on to new and better projects.

Someone's off on their logic. It ain't me.

From the looks of their shop, they're not exactly rolling in money, either.

Pharmacist · 12-22-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I would rather have a NA car then a turbo car.

why? some of the fastest cars out there are turbo. besides, comparisons almost always include cars like sti, evo, gtr, amg cars which are turbo/super, but only include the 911 gt3 and not the gt2?

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ou're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it?

True, but comparison tests usually compare the "ultimate" or top of the line of each company, regardless of price tag. that's why the same test can feature cars from the zr1, viper, gtr, 911 turbo, all the way up to ferrari 430, murcielago, sl65 black series, etc.....

i know people favor the gt3 over gt2 because its easier to drive consistently on a track while the gt2 needs a lot more driver skill to go fast. but same can be said about the zr1 yet it pops out in almost every comparison test.

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12-21-2009, 09:56 PM	#55 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	That was an interesting read... I've driven a GT3, you think the Nismo is a bad street car that GT3 is a skateboard! Bumpy as all hell, loud as can be but still a bad * car just the same. Comparing a 30-40K car to a 115K car just doesnt add up. Regardless of what car you prefer, I would much rather take that 115K and buy a Touring Z and a track Z. Plus have $ to fix them both up. We had an older Turbo (02 996TT). It was a WONDERFUL car and as much as I love my Z, you can't compare. But again...we're talking about MUCH more $$$$ and when my warranty expired terribly pricey to keep up. If things go well, I'd like to have both but it wouldnt be a GT3, that's a rich mans track car and definitely not a fun daily driver. Just my 2 cents.. __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports**

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motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	You're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it? __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

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