Parking Brake Sucks?

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 12:24 PM

I downshift from time to time depending on the situation, but I am just saying I would rather save wear and tear on a high dollar item like clutch and trans when I could just use the cheaper brake pads and rotors, which are much easier to change as well.

vipor · 12-15-2009, 12:26 PM

I'll downshift when slowing, but not stopping. Don't use my e-brake in either situation. (back on topic! rofl)

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

I'll downshift when slowing, but not stopping. Don't use my e-brake in either situation. (back on topic! rofl)

haha

carfr3ak · 12-15-2009, 12:26 PM

I have always used my e-brake unless I am on a moderate to steep incline. Otherwise, I just use the e-brake. I do this because I have heard that if someone were to hit you while your car is parked, and in gear, it will damage the transmission. I can see how that makes sense, if someone were to hit your car while its parked, and in gear, suddenly your transmission is forced to violently turn the engine by itself(which we all know, is very difficult).

vipor · 12-15-2009, 01:08 PM

I wanna know what would be involved in changing/upgrading the e-brake to excel more in drifting-type applications.

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 01:40 PM

You would need to tie into the hydro brake lines, so the e-brake would be like pushing the brake pedal, but it would only activate the rears.

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 01:45 PM

Here is a link to what a local did to his 350Z:

Nackers: Handbrake install

vipor · 12-15-2009, 01:52 PM

That's a lot of work haha. Thanks for the info on that setup

My S14 had a great e-brake, even though I rarely used it. I'm guessing it used a different style.

shabarivas · 12-15-2009, 01:57 PM

You dont need an E-brake to initiate a drift in the Z - just clutch kick in turn and gas it hard... once you are sliding counter and modulate throttle

GT Motoring · 12-15-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

You dont need an E-brake to initiate a drift in the Z - just clutch kick in turn and gas it hard... once you are sliding counter and modulate throttle

Depends on the track layout, e-brake is needed to initiate tight radius corners.

vipor · 12-15-2009, 02:17 PM

There is more than one way to drift, I understand how to do it just fine, it's just that the e-brake not being a POS would be nice.

vipor · 12-15-2009, 02:26 PM

kannibul · 12-15-2009, 02:53 PM

Not interested in drifting, just I don't like how when I stop in my garage, pull the E-brake, put it in Park, and left off the brake, that the car rolls foward about an inch from drivetrain tension (I assume)

spearfish25 · 12-15-2009, 04:25 PM

I'm not a big drifter, but this ebrake is completely unreliable for holding the car on a hill by itself.

As for the "leave it in gear" vs ebrake when parking...you guys don't live in a cold climate. Anyone in a freezing climate can tell you about a story when their ebrake froze. Most people here just leave a manual transmission in gear without a parking brake engaged.

As for the idea of straining your transmission by leaving it in gear...which do you think has higher load on the transmission cogs: 1) parking a car and leaving it in gear while resting against a cog or 2) driving away under heavy acceleration? As another person posted, I've been leaving my MTs in gear without an ebrake engaged for the better part of a decade with no problems.

+1 for wanting to upgrade our POS Flintstone ebrakes. I could stop my car faster by dragging my foot out the driver's door.

vipor · 12-15-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

+1 for wanting to upgrade our POS Flintstone ebrakes. I could stop my car faster by dragging my foot out the driver's door.

12-15-2009, 12:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
GT Motoring Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 489 Drives: R35 Rep Power: 841	I downshift from time to time depending on the situation, but I am just saying I would rather save wear and tear on a high dollar item like clutch and trans when I could just use the cheaper brake pads and rotors, which are much easier to change as well. __________________ http://www.gtmotoring.com/images/for...r-nagtroc1.gif Zele Authorized USA Dealer Amuse Authorized Distributor 370Z Purchasing Special through GT Motoring www.gtmotoring.com

12-15-2009, 12:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 44 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	I'll downshift when slowing, but not stopping. Don't use my e-brake in either situation. (back on topic! rofl) __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 01:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 44 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	I wanna know what would be involved in changing/upgrading the e-brake to excel more in drifting-type applications. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 01:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
GT Motoring Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 489 Drives: R35 Rep Power: 841	You would need to tie into the hydro brake lines, so the e-brake would be like pushing the brake pedal, but it would only activate the rears. __________________ http://www.gtmotoring.com/images/for...r-nagtroc1.gif Zele Authorized USA Dealer Amuse Authorized Distributor 370Z Purchasing Special through GT Motoring www.gtmotoring.com

12-15-2009, 01:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
GT Motoring Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 489 Drives: R35 Rep Power: 841	Here is a link to what a local did to his 350Z: Nackers: Handbrake install __________________ http://www.gtmotoring.com/images/for...r-nagtroc1.gif Zele Authorized USA Dealer Amuse Authorized Distributor 370Z Purchasing Special through GT Motoring www.gtmotoring.com

12-15-2009, 12:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
carfr3ak Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 71 Drives: Nissan SUV Rep Power: 18	I have always used my e-brake unless I am on a moderate to steep incline. Otherwise, I just use the e-brake. I do this because I have heard that if someone were to hit you while your car is parked, and in gear, it will damage the transmission. I can see how that makes sense, if someone were to hit your car while its parked, and in gear, suddenly your transmission is forced to violently turn the engine by itself(which we all know, is very difficult).

12-15-2009, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 44 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	That's a lot of work haha. Thanks for the info on that setup My S14 had a great e-brake, even though I rarely used it. I'm guessing it used a different style. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 01:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 916	You dont need an E-brake to initiate a drift in the Z - just clutch kick in turn and gas it hard... once you are sliding counter and modulate throttle

12-15-2009, 02:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 44 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	There is more than one way to drift, I understand how to do it just fine, it's just that the e-brake not being a POS would be nice. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 02:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 44 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	__________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-15-2009, 02:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 269	Not interested in drifting, just I don't like how when I stop in my garage, pull the E-brake, put it in Park, and left off the brake, that the car rolls foward about an inch from drivetrain tension (I assume)

12-15-2009, 04:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1858	I'm not a big drifter, but this ebrake is completely unreliable for holding the car on a hill by itself. As for the "leave it in gear" vs ebrake when parking...you guys don't live in a cold climate. Anyone in a freezing climate can tell you about a story when their ebrake froze. Most people here just leave a manual transmission in gear without a parking brake engaged. As for the idea of straining your transmission by leaving it in gear...which do you think has higher load on the transmission cogs: 1) parking a car and leaving it in gear while resting against a cog or 2) driving away under heavy acceleration? As another person posted, I've been leaving my MTs in gear without an ebrake engaged for the better part of a decade with no problems. +1 for wanting to upgrade our POS Flintstone ebrakes. I could stop my car faster by dragging my foot out the driver's door. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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