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Old 05-11-2017, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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He addressed the stang:


"A camaro or mustang might compete in the same pricing offering that 100HP gap like a vette. But the still can't offer the driving dynamics of a low slung, 2 seated with a suitably powerful engine and handling as direct as you can make a hydraulic steering unit and maintaining FEEDBACK. Something that today's sports cars lack."

As for the RS, it's a sweet hot-hatch, but not a sportscar, which may be why it wasn't included in his post.
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I made mention of camaro and mustang. I stated that those cars though May have more power. Do not have the same driving dynamics as a 2 seated (paraphrasing). The focus is NOT an FR platform car.
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I made mention of camaro and mustang. I stated that those cars though May have more power. Do not have the same driving dynamics as a 2 seated (paraphrasing). The focus is NOT an FR platform car.
tru tru. what about the genesis coupe 3.8?
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tru tru. what about the genesis coupe 3.8?
It's s great first attempt at a sports car.the evolution over the course of one generation was remarkable. But the Genesis coupe has ECU programming that hinders it from being as good as it can be. It's Brembos have been engineered with too many cost cutting shortcuts and finally, the transmission response which is probably hindered by poor ecu tuning is subpar by comparison to the Z. Finally. It's wheelbase and weight distribution don't allow it to be a true competitor once on track. It's still a 2+2.

The only reason I can add the 86 to the mix is.... despite being a 4 seater. It's still has 2 seater dimensions, driving dynamics and weight. The Genny doesn't Nor does the camaro or any muscle. We can compare Porsche but I was comaring more attainable marks...
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It's s great first attempt at a sports car.the evolution over the course of one generation was remarkable. But the Genesis coupe has ECU programming that hinders it from being as good as it can be. It's Brembos have been engineered with too many cost cutting shortcuts and finally, the transmission response which is probably hindered by poor ecu tuning is subpar by comparison to the Z. Finally. It's wheelbase and weight distribution don't allow it to be a true competitor once on track. It's still a 2+2.

The only reason I can add the 86 to the mix is.... despite being a 4 seater. It's still has 2 seater dimensions, driving dynamics and weight. The Genny doesn't Nor does the camaro or any muscle. We can compare Porsche but I was comaring more attainable marks...
Agreed. My Genny is a FANTASTIC GT car for the money. As a sports car it falls short against the Z. Though IMHO it's a better GT car than either a mustang or camaro. For the money that is.
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tru tru. what about the genesis coupe 3.8?
Genesis coupe let me ad is plagued with transmission issues. I considered the genesis... until I read up on these issues....
Dont believe me?... how about a 118 page thread on their webpage:
OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Hyundai Genesis Forum

Cant beat our reliability...our CSC is crap but its a 1 to 2k fix versus a 10k fix that never really gets fixed...
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Genesis coupe let me ad is plagued with transmission issues. I considered the genesis... until I read up on these issues....
Dont believe me?... how about a 118 page thread on their webpage:
OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Hyundai Genesis Forum

Can beat our reliability...our CSC is crap but its a 1 to 2k fix versus a 10k fix that never really gets fixed...
Well at least they have 10 years or 100k miles to have their transmission replaced for free as apposed to Nissan's 3/36K if your slave fails.
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Well at least they have 10 years or 100k miles to have their transmission replaced for free as apposed to Nissan's 3/36K if your slave fails.
Thats the problem ...we can actually fix ours they get a swap from a POS trans to another POS hyundai trans until the warranty runs out and they have a POS trans...that breaks down....
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Thats the problem ...we can actually fix ours they get a swap from a POS trans to another POS hyundai trans until the warranty runs out and they have a POS trans...that breaks down....
So you'd prefer to pay and waste the better part of your day rather then get a replacement for free for 10 years at which is a moot point since most people will get another car by then. Even our '09s would still be covered and their problem is just annoying where as ours leaves you stranded.
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Well at least they have 10 years or 100k miles to have their transmission replaced for free as apposed to Nissan's 3/36K if your slave fails.
Having a warranty and warranty politics are two different entities. I've been able to get Nissan to fix things out of warranty just because it's a known issue. Try that with Hyundai.

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Mustang has a bad reputation, its like shopping at Walmart for your clothes. Too many people can afford it, too many people own it, quality is in question. It has a reputation from long ago as the mullet wearing loser car.

Focus RS is a F.ing Focus....its history is cheap econo box, its ugly, every chick that sees it thinks its just a slow loser focus... and for the price you honestly do not want a reputation of economy car following you around, you want both performance and looks.

They are both great performance cars, and I honestly like them both from this aspect....but for the package the Z is better.

The Z does not have that reputation it is known as a drivers car. It has amazing looks, Japanese built (quality) and its true enthusiast performance car. So for the price of the two cars mentioned above you get amazing looks, a great historical reputation, good performance...cant be beat...
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