370z, a better bargain than some think!

SINISTER · 05-12-2017, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brianx42

tru tru. what about the genesis coupe 3.8?

Genesis coupe let me ad is plagued with transmission issues. I considered the genesis... until I read up on these issues....
Dont believe me?... how about a 118 page thread on their webpage:

OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Hyundai Genesis Forum

Cant beat our reliability...our CSC is crap but its a 1 to 2k fix versus a 10k fix that never really gets fixed...

Nixin · 05-12-2017, 02:13 PM

Genesis, shmenisis, I looked at it for about 30 seconds when I was looking for a sporty car. There is nothing inspirational or sexy about this car.

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-12-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Genesis coupe let me ad is plagued with transmission issues. I considered the genesis... until I read up on these issues....
Dont believe me?... how about a 118 page thread on their webpage:

OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Hyundai Genesis Forum

Can beat our reliability...our CSC is crap but its a 1 to 2k fix versus a 10k fix that never really gets fixed...

Well at least they have 10 years or 100k miles to have their transmission replaced for free as apposed to Nissan's 3/36K if your slave fails.

Nixin · 05-12-2017, 02:58 PM

How many people own cars for more that 10 years nowadays? It wouldn't be a determining factor, at least not for me.

Redglare · 05-12-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I don't care for direct injection gas engines due to all the carbon build up issues that come over time.

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Originally Posted by sx moneypit

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Hate direct injection also....it is a PITA to clean and for the benefits which are questionable at best...give me port all day long.

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Originally Posted by Redglare

if nissan only kept updating the 370..... direct injection w/ side port inj. would be a sweet mid cycle refresh ~would easily squeeze out another 20-30ponies. ( I can already picture a 370hp 370z lol)

aside that a headunit refresh with apple carplay would do wonders to this platform.

shoulda woulda coulda... ahh, it's still a great platform,

At least that's how toyota went about solving the carbon build up and the refreshed mustang 5.0, port injection is still there to keep the carbon from accumulating.

SINISTER · 05-12-2017, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Well at least they have 10 years or 100k miles to have their transmission replaced for free as apposed to Nissan's 3/36K if your slave fails.

Thats the problem ...we can actually fix ours they get a swap from a POS trans to another POS hyundai trans until the warranty runs out and they have a POS trans...that breaks down....

Jimbo370 · 05-12-2017, 08:51 PM

What about Hyundai? go south korea

mattleegee · 05-13-2017, 02:19 AM

such a painful thread to read
8 (incomplete) topics thrown into one post, with redirects following

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-13-2017, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Thats the problem ...we can actually fix ours they get a swap from a POS trans to another POS hyundai trans until the warranty runs out and they have a POS trans...that breaks down....

So you'd prefer to pay and waste the better part of your day rather then get a replacement for free for 10 years at which is a moot point since most people will get another car by then. Even our '09s would still be covered and their problem is just annoying where as ours leaves you stranded.

SINISTER · 05-13-2017, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

So you'd prefer to pay and waste the better part of your day rather then get a replacement for free for 10 years at which is a moot point since most people will get another car by then. Even our '09s would still be covered and their problem is just annoying where as ours leaves you stranded.

So you would rather prefer to have a grinding transmission that drives like crap the majority of the time, instead of a 1 time incident that can be fixed right and then your done?
Lets don't forget the down time you have as they work on removing your transmission and changing it to another faulty transmission that will eventually grind again.

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-13-2017, 07:27 AM

Well it solved it for a lot of them. It doesn't take a week to replace at best 1 day with courtesy car. And guess what our lovely snychros are a pos too, search 370z grinding 2nd. I understand brand loyalty but blind loyalty is just stupid.

dvboy · 05-13-2017, 07:33 AM

Here in Canada u can get a new 2017 base 370z for $29,000 + tax,that's just over $21,000 USD with exchange.Best bargain out there as far as I'm concerned.For whatever reason we lowered the price of the base out here,but if you want a sport version the only option is the sport/touring version at $44,100 CAD,not such a bargain.

SINISTER · 05-13-2017, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Well it solved it for a lot of them. It doesn't take a week to replace at best 1 day with courtesy car. And guess what our lovely snychros are a pos too, search 370z grinding 2nd. I understand brand loyalty but blind loyalty is just stupid.

No way you can compare the overall package you get with the Z to a Genesis. That is stupid... I simply added another flaw (transmission) that the OP did not mention but he summarized its flaws pretty good... maybe you missed his post?

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But the Genesis coupe has ECU programming that hinders it from being as good as it can be. It's Brembos have been engineered with too many cost cutting shortcuts and finally, the transmission response which is probably hindered by poor ecu tuning is subpar by comparison to the Z. Finally. It's wheelbase and weight distribution don't allow it to be a true competitor once on track. It's still a 2+2..

Plus there is no way it takes them one day to do a Trans swap...on top of that you have to get them to approve the switch, which I read sometimes they try to play it off and change fluids etc. Then when it gets worse they change it. So you have a high probability of having a car that drives like a pos for awhile until they approve the swap.

Our snycrhos as you mentioned ...do not have a thread devoted to them that has 118 pages. No way comparable to the degree of their issues...

SINISTER · 05-13-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mattleegee

such a painful thread to read
8 (incomplete) topics thrown into one post, with redirects following

You can handle it....gotta multitask...

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-13-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

if nissan only kept updating the 370..... direct injection w/ side port inj. would be a sweet mid cycle refresh ~would easily squeeze out another 20-30ponies. ( I can already picture a 370hp 370z lol)

aside that a headunit refresh with apple carplay would do wonders to this platform.

shoulda woulda coulda... ahh, it's still a great platform,

I agree on the radio, they should've added more soft touch on the radio. There's other types of tuning they could've done to get that extra HP, like the manifold would've been 10 extra right there and more aggressive cam tuning.

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dvboy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 269 Drives: 2016,M6 Rep Power: 25	Here in Canada u can get a new 2017 base 370z for $29,000 + tax,that's just over $21,000 USD with exchange.Best bargain out there as far as I'm concerned.For whatever reason we lowered the price of the base out here,but if you want a sport version the only option is the sport/touring version at $44,100 CAD,not such a bargain. ScottM likes this. __________________ Pioneer AVIC 8000NEX,Hertz ML 1600,ScanSpeak D3004,Audison AV 5.1K,Helix DSP.2,Illusion Audio L10 Sub,RJM Clutch pedal,Stillen G3 long tube intake,Nismo exhaust,AAM S-line axle back,Ecutek tune

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