370z, a better bargain than some think!

Redglare · 05-12-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I don't care for direct injection gas engines due to all the carbon build up issues that come over time.

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Hate direct injection also....it is a PITA to clean and for the benefits which are questionable at best...give me port all day long.

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Originally Posted by Redglare

if nissan only kept updating the 370..... direct injection w/ side port inj. would be a sweet mid cycle refresh ~would easily squeeze out another 20-30ponies. ( I can already picture a 370hp 370z lol)

aside that a headunit refresh with apple carplay would do wonders to this platform.

shoulda woulda coulda... ahh, it's still a great platform,

At least that's how toyota went about solving the carbon build up and the refreshed mustang 5.0, port injection is still there to keep the carbon from accumulating.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-13-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

if nissan only kept updating the 370..... direct injection w/ side port inj. would be a sweet mid cycle refresh ~would easily squeeze out another 20-30ponies. ( I can already picture a 370hp 370z lol)

aside that a headunit refresh with apple carplay would do wonders to this platform.

shoulda woulda coulda... ahh, it's still a great platform,

I agree on the radio, they should've added more soft touch on the radio. There's other types of tuning they could've done to get that extra HP, like the manifold would've been 10 extra right there and more aggressive cam tuning.

Cyber370 · 05-12-2017, 04:16 AM

Guys,
The base Lotus Elise hasn't been really updated since its release in the 90's and it is still the holy grail of true sports cars. Sure it got some different engine options but not anything significantly different in horsepower. Just saying.

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triso07 · 05-12-2017, 09:53 AM

I feel the same way. The Z (especially the sport) is an amazing buy for the money. It gives you a raw old school sports car experience that is missing from nearly every other car on the market. To me, the Cayman is the ultimate modern sports car, but the Z represents a simpler formula and has a character that is unmatched for its price point.

The sporty coupe segment is huge now though. Mustangs/Camaros/Challengers are killing power per dollar segment and have become much better all around cars in terms of tech and handling. Still there is something about the Z's formula that just sets it apart for me, but that's because I love sports cars. It's a niche for sure.

Nixin · 05-12-2017, 02:13 PM

Genesis, shmenisis, I looked at it for about 30 seconds when I was looking for a sporty car. There is nothing inspirational or sexy about this car.

Nixin · 05-12-2017, 02:58 PM

How many people own cars for more that 10 years nowadays? It wouldn't be a determining factor, at least not for me.

mattleegee · 05-13-2017, 02:19 AM

such a painful thread to read
8 (incomplete) topics thrown into one post, with redirects following

SINISTER · 05-13-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mattleegee

such a painful thread to read
8 (incomplete) topics thrown into one post, with redirects following

You can handle it....gotta multitask...

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-13-2017, 07:27 AM

Well it solved it for a lot of them. It doesn't take a week to replace at best 1 day with courtesy car. And guess what our lovely snychros are a pos too, search 370z grinding 2nd. I understand brand loyalty but blind loyalty is just stupid.

SINISTER · 05-13-2017, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Well it solved it for a lot of them. It doesn't take a week to replace at best 1 day with courtesy car. And guess what our lovely snychros are a pos too, search 370z grinding 2nd. I understand brand loyalty but blind loyalty is just stupid.

No way you can compare the overall package you get with the Z to a Genesis. That is stupid... I simply added another flaw (transmission) that the OP did not mention but he summarized its flaws pretty good... maybe you missed his post?

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But the Genesis coupe has ECU programming that hinders it from being as good as it can be. It's Brembos have been engineered with too many cost cutting shortcuts and finally, the transmission response which is probably hindered by poor ecu tuning is subpar by comparison to the Z. Finally. It's wheelbase and weight distribution don't allow it to be a true competitor once on track. It's still a 2+2..

Plus there is no way it takes them one day to do a Trans swap...on top of that you have to get them to approve the switch, which I read sometimes they try to play it off and change fluids etc. Then when it gets worse they change it. So you have a high probability of having a car that drives like a pos for awhile until they approve the swap.

Our snycrhos as you mentioned ...do not have a thread devoted to them that has 118 pages. No way comparable to the degree of their issues...

dvboy · 05-13-2017, 07:33 AM

Here in Canada u can get a new 2017 base 370z for $29,000 + tax,that's just over $21,000 USD with exchange.Best bargain out there as far as I'm concerned.For whatever reason we lowered the price of the base out here,but if you want a sport version the only option is the sport/touring version at $44,100 CAD,not such a bargain.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-14-2017, 07:04 PM

I've been finding brand new NISMO 370z as low as $38,855 auto and Nismo tech manual at $40,045

Once you talk those prices for a Nismo brand new. Its TRULY a value purchase. I think the standard Nismo is worth 40k and with the tech it's worth 41.5. Add another 1,200 in my head since its really not updated.

So in my head, the most loaded Nismo should be about $43k est and not its MSRP of about $48,045. And that's exactly what most dealers sell them for.

So while there's plenty of debate about Nissan's MSRP. Reality shows its a pretty good deal. Especially when you can find them as cheap as $38,800 brand spanking new with auto.

babyzilla · 06-15-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I've been finding brand new NISMO 370z as low as $38,855 auto and Nismo tech manual at $40,045

Once you talk those prices for a Nismo brand new. Its TRULY a value purchase. I think the standard Nismo is worth 40k and with the tech it's worth 41.5. Add another 1,200 in my head since its really not updated.

So in my head, the most loaded Nismo should be about $43k est and not its MSRP of about $48,045. And that's exactly what most dealers sell them for.

So while there's plenty of debate about Nissan's MSRP. Reality shows its a pretty good deal. Especially when you can find them as cheap as $38,800 brand spanking new with auto.

Mind showing me/us where you see the 38,800 posting?

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-15-2017, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by babyzilla

Mind showing me/us where you see the 38,800 posting?

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6376/overview/

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-15-2017, 03:05 PM

Cars.com

05-12-2017, 04:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19373	Guys, The base Lotus Elise hasn't been really updated since its release in the 90's and it is still the holy grail of true sports cars. Sure it got some different engine options but not anything significantly different in horsepower. Just saying. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

05-12-2017, 09:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 16	I feel the same way. The Z (especially the sport) is an amazing buy for the money. It gives you a raw old school sports car experience that is missing from nearly every other car on the market. To me, the Cayman is the ultimate modern sports car, but the Z represents a simpler formula and has a character that is unmatched for its price point. The sporty coupe segment is huge now though. Mustangs/Camaros/Challengers are killing power per dollar segment and have become much better all around cars in terms of tech and handling. Still there is something about the Z's formula that just sets it apart for me, but that's because I love sports cars. It's a niche for sure. Leadfoot likes this.

05-12-2017, 02:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19834	Genesis, shmenisis, I looked at it for about 30 seconds when I was looking for a sporty car. There is nothing inspirational or sexy about this car. sunkist350z, Leadfoot and SINISTER like this.

05-12-2017, 02:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19834	How many people own cars for more that 10 years nowadays? It wouldn't be a determining factor, at least not for me. Leadfoot likes this.

05-13-2017, 07:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,413 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40571	Well it solved it for a lot of them. It doesn't take a week to replace at best 1 day with courtesy car. And guess what our lovely snychros are a pos too, search 370z grinding 2nd. I understand brand loyalty but blind loyalty is just stupid. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

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mattleegee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 72 Drives: 2014 4runner TE Rep Power: 14	such a painful thread to read 8 (incomplete) topics thrown into one post, with redirects following

05-13-2017, 07:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
dvboy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 269 Drives: 2016,M6 Rep Power: 27	Here in Canada u can get a new 2017 base 370z for $29,000 + tax,that's just over $21,000 USD with exchange.Best bargain out there as far as I'm concerned.For whatever reason we lowered the price of the base out here,but if you want a sport version the only option is the sport/touring version at $44,100 CAD,not such a bargain. ScottM likes this. __________________ Pioneer AVIC 8000NEX,Hertz ML 1600,ScanSpeak D3004,Audison AV 5.1K,Helix DSP.2,Illusion Audio L10 Sub,RJM Clutch pedal,Stillen G3 long tube intake,Nismo exhaust,AAM S-line axle back,Ecutek tune

06-14-2017, 07:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	I've been finding brand new NISMO 370z as low as $38,855 auto and Nismo tech manual at $40,045 Once you talk those prices for a Nismo brand new. Its TRULY a value purchase. I think the standard Nismo is worth 40k and with the tech it's worth 41.5. Add another 1,200 in my head since its really not updated. So in my head, the most loaded Nismo should be about $43k est and not its MSRP of about $48,045. And that's exactly what most dealers sell them for. So while there's plenty of debate about Nissan's MSRP. Reality shows its a pretty good deal. Especially when you can find them as cheap as $38,800 brand spanking new with auto. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

06-15-2017, 03:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Cars.com __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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