Whats your method when you downshift

stansens · 02-22-2017, 05:31 PM

Just to add if I may, the 2016 owner's manual indicates that the transmission must be in neutral with your foot completely off the clutch pedal whenever the car is stopped. This apparently helps with reducing the heat and pressure directed to the infamous CSC adding a bit more life. This might also be a question that the dealers will start asking so as to deny more warranty claims......something to think about.

Nithmo · 02-22-2017, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stansens

Just to add if I may, the 2016 owner's manual indicates that the transmission must be in neutral with your foot completely off the clutch pedal whenever the car is stopped. This apparently helps with reducing the heat and pressure directed to the infamous CSC adding a bit more life. This might also be a question that the dealers will start asking so as to deny more warranty claims......something to think about.

You shouldn't keep your foot on the clutch if you're sitting at a light. You'll burn out your throw out bearing eventually if you do that. True story.

2011 Nismo#91 · 02-22-2017, 07:15 AM

My Habit is one of two options:
1. With S-mode on Depress clutch and downshift then release clutch.
2. With S-mode off turn S-mode on and follow 1.

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Originally Posted by Hungry4Real

... I been told from a reference that it is better to downshift in a sequential order to preserve the longevity of the transmission.

As long as the revs are close it makes no difference what gear you select.

Duc_Z09 · 02-22-2017, 07:18 AM

I go from 5th to 1st and then let the clutch fly. SRM off. Stops me every time.

kenchan · 02-22-2017, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I go from 5th to 1st and then let the clutch fly. SRM off. Stops me every time.

why 1st? go reverse! works just like reverse thrusterz on a jetliner

sx moneypit · 02-22-2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

why 1st? go reverse! works just like reverse thrusterz on a jetliner

Duc_Z09 · 02-23-2017, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

why 1st? go reverse! works just like reverse thrusterz on a jetliner

Never thought of it, but you're right! Bet I can get my 60-0 distance way down!

JARblue · 02-23-2017, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Never thought of it, but you're right! Bet I can get my 60-0 distance way down!

If that's your goal, just plow into a wall

cigarclifford · 02-23-2017, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

If that's your goal, just plow into a wall

Duc_Z09 · 02-23-2017, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

If that's your goal, just plow into a wall

I was thinking of rigging up a servo-actuated boat anchor that will fall out from the rear hatch area. Do you think that would help?

Hungry4Real · 02-22-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I go from 5th to 1st and then let the clutch fly. SRM off. Stops me every time.

Lmao I'll make sure to fastened my seat belt 😂

cigarclifford · 02-22-2017, 06:35 PM

JARblue · 02-22-2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hungry4Real

Hey everyone just wanted to see your input on what method or habit you developed when you downshift to a desired gear. I have developed and maintained a habit since i been told from a reference that it is better to downshift in a sequential order to preserve the longevity of the transmission. But i do come across videos on youtube of people driving their Z or any vehicle and they would shift to a desire gear directly in non a sequential order. So what i would like to find out is, do you have a habit when you downshift? and if anyone wants/or cares to elaborate, is there a right way to downshift to a desire gear?

Thank you and i tried to search and no answer i was looking for.

No need to downshift sequentially as long as you rev match appropriately. I skip gears all the time, both up and down. As pointed out already in this thread, downshifting through gears that you don't intend to stay in is just putting more wear on your transmission. I do it on occasion simply because I love those amazing VQ notes, but I wouldn't want to make a habit of it on a daily driver.

SouthArk370Z · 02-22-2017, 09:10 AM

The order you shift the gears in is not important, it's all about synchronizing gear speed and keeping engine RPM in the optimum range. Skip a gear or three if you want - just make sure you're not stressing the synchros too much or lugging/over-reving the engine.

As for engine-braking, I'm with most of the others: brake pads are a lot cheaper than rebuilt engines. But many people enjoy it and it's not doing that much damage if kept within reason.

At a long stop (eg, stop light), I'll put the xmission in neutral and let off the clutch to reduce wear & tear in the throwout bearing. As with engine-braking, probably doesn't make all that much difference.

Unless I was braking hard to make the stop, I keep my foot on the brake. As someone mentioned above, no brake lights can freak out other drivers.

IE, as far as the engine and xmission are concerned, shift the way you want to. Some methods are easier on the drivetrain but, unless you are being careless, you're not going to do that much damage. You have to decide if the extra fun is worth the extra maintenance/repairs.

YMMV

Nithmo · 02-22-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

The order you shift the gears in is not important, it's all about synchronizing gear speed and keeping engine RPM in the optimum range. Skip a gear or three if you want - just make sure you're not stressing the synchros too much or lugging/over-reving the engine.

As for engine-braking, I'm with most of the others: brake pads are a lot cheaper than rebuilt engines. But many people enjoy it and it's not doing that much damage if kept within reason.

At a long stop (eg, stop light), I'll put the xmission in neutral and let off the clutch to reduce wear & tear in the throwout bearing. As with engine-braking, probably doesn't make all that much difference.

Unless I was braking hard to make the stop, I keep my foot on the brake. As someone mentioned above, no brake lights can freak out other drivers.

IE, as far as the engine and xmission are concerned, shift the way you want to. Some methods are easier on the drivetrain but, unless you are being careless, you're not going to do that much damage. You have to decide if the extra fun is worth the extra maintenance/repairs.

YMMV

This. Times 100. It's just easier to synchronize gear speed with engine speed, if done sequentially.

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SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	The order you shift the gears in is not important, it's all about synchronizing gear speed and keeping engine RPM in the optimum range. Skip a gear or three if you want - just make sure you're not stressing the synchros too much or lugging/over-reving the engine. As for engine-braking, I'm with most of the others: brake pads are a lot cheaper than rebuilt engines. But many people enjoy it and it's not doing that much damage if kept within reason. At a long stop (eg, stop light), I'll put the xmission in neutral and let off the clutch to reduce wear & tear in the throwout bearing. As with engine-braking, probably doesn't make all that much difference. Unless I was braking hard to make the stop, I keep my foot on the brake. As someone mentioned above, no brake lights can freak out other drivers. IE, as far as the engine and xmission are concerned, shift the way you want to. Some methods are easier on the drivetrain but, unless you are being careless, you're not going to do that much damage. You have to decide if the extra fun is worth the extra maintenance/repairs. YMMV JARblue, Hotrodz, Nithmo and 1 others like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

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stansens Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 146 Drives: 2016, 370z Rep Power: 193	Just to add if I may, the 2016 owner's manual indicates that the transmission must be in neutral with your foot completely off the clutch pedal whenever the car is stopped. This apparently helps with reducing the heat and pressure directed to the infamous CSC adding a bit more life. This might also be a question that the dealers will start asking so as to deny more warranty claims......something to think about.