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why would you ask other people what car you should or shouldn't own? everyone has his/her own preferences. just get the one that makes you happy. Originally Posted by zae757

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Old 06-15-2016, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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why would you ask other people what car you should or shouldn't own? everyone has his/her own preferences. just get the one that makes you happy.

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...I love my 370Z, and I've enjoyed everything about it. I installed several aftermarket parts (wheels, CAI, CBE, HFC, audio upgrades, etc) and feel as though it is the best looking vehicle on the road today. The aggressive look of both front and rear end is something that sold me and I just had to have it. Recently, the 2016 Camaro 1SS/2SS has released and again, I am falling in love with another vehicle (I feel like I'm emotionally cheating on my car). This wouldn't even be a discussion to have if the 370Z could compete with the 455 horsepower and 455 torque (granted the Camaro isn't delivering this to the rear wheels but still impressive numbers).

Again, I love my car and would do anything to keep it but the last straw was when a 2010 Lexus GS460 left me at the light. I didn't know we were about to go but at no point should the 370Z need notice of a pending challenger of that caliber. So now I'm trying to decide whether I should trade the Z in for an american made vehicle. I love my imports though...tough decision though...my brother bought a 2012 Mustang GT and I've ran against it and again, I was no challenge for the amount of power its able to put down. Yes, two different classes (8v6) but now I feel I'm getting disrespected every time I turn my head.

I know someone is going to suggest that I either get a SC or TT but for the amount of money I will be spending on that, I would have bought the SS plus a little honda civic. So, I don't know...comments or suggestions?
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Sounds like a perfect recipe to not learn from your mistakes (the "don't look back" part).
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I never got passed at the tail of the dragon... lol

Seriously as fun as the 6 second wot thrill may be it's more enjoyable doing spirited corners. None of the cars mentioned like to follow my spirited corners
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After watching Jay Leno's Garage last night, my next choice has to be the Koenigsegg One:1. I'll need to check with my wife though. Until then, I'll be happy with my '12 Touring/ Sport 6-spd. My next door neighbor has a '16 Z06 Vette and just parks it in his driveway, facing the street. Guess all the neighbors are supposed to be impressed. He never drives it anywhere. So what's the point? Of course, it is plastic.....

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For kicks. All stats are 2016 models and pricing:



If it were purely a case of HP:$, or Power:Weight, every enthusiast would drive the same car. Given the high number of Mustangs on the road these days, we can see what's driving a lot of people's decisions, and we can expect that to tip in the favour of Camaro purely on power per dollar, and even power:weight ratios.

It depends on what we consider valuable.
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For kicks. All stats are 2016 models and pricing:



If it were purely a case of HP:$, or Power:Weight, every enthusiast would drive the same car. Given the high number of Mustangs on the road these days, we can see what's driving a lot of people's decisions, and we can expect that to tip in the favour of Camaro purely on power per dollar, and even power:weight ratios.

It depends on what we consider valuable.
Too many people are just looking at the HP as the determining factor for performance. Those who criticize the Z like to point out the lack of HP for the buck, in comparison. Hey that's fine, it's not the most practical price point, but there is no denying the Z's handling. Those who criticize usually haven't been in a Z.

Every time I give friends a joy ride for the first time, I purposely push the turns and they're hanging on for dear life, with a facial expression of WTF was that!, and wet the seats out of excitement. Thank goodness for suede protection.

But guess it's all about who makes it faster to the next traffic light. And if that's the most important thing to the OP, so be it, whatever makes him happy. Just don't underestimate the Z's strong points.

On another note... out of seeing hundreds of Camaros on the street, I've only seen like 8 370zs, and 2 Nismos (not including mine) in my daily drives. I like the uniqueness. But that's my opinion.
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Too many people are just looking at the HP as the determining factor for performance. Those who criticize the Z like to point out the lack of HP for the buck, in comparison. Hey that's fine, it's not the most practical price point, but there is no denying the Z's handling. Those who criticize usually haven't been in a Z.

Every time I give friends a joy ride for the first time, I purposely push the turns and they're hanging on for dear life, with a facial expression of WTF was that!, and wet the seats out of excitement. Thank goodness for suede protection.

But guess it's all about who makes it faster to the next traffic light. And if that's the most important thing to the OP, so be it, whatever makes him happy. Just don't underestimate the Z's strong points.

On another note... out of seeing hundreds of Camaros on the street, I've only seen like 8 370zs, and 2 Nismos (not including mine) in my daily drives. I like the uniqueness. But that's my opinion.
I agree. In my eyes, and perhaps in the eyes of most Z (or similar niche-car) owners, the biggest enemy to Camaro and Mustang desirability is how common they are. You can find fleets of them in rental-lots!

It's all about personal value-judgments. And for some, it really is "... all about who makes it faster to the next traffic light."
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Why is the title of this thread 'Hard Decision'? Seems pretty clear the OP does not belong in a Z and needs a different car to beat those GS460s
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I'd much rather have quality, beautiful design, agility and handling over brute force any day. Besides, these Z's aren't no slouch. I've seen 0-60 times on a stock Z range from 5.5 sec all the way down to 4.5 sec, and 1/4 miles times from 13.5 sec down to 12.7 sec. And that's all from a $30k sports car.

Any car from Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lexus, etc, etc that's capable of 4.5 sec 0-60 and a 12.7 sec 1/4 mile time range between $60k - $80k.

Of course, I could add the Camaro, Mustang and Corvette in that list too, but that list above is for REAL cars that can go fast and hug the corners.

And while we're talking about the Z vs the Camaro or Mustang, those two still don't hold a candle to the outstanding looks of the Z. They just don't compare at all to the Z in style and design.

Anywho...
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Of course, I could add the Camaro, Mustang and Corvette in that list too, but that list above is for REAL cars that can go fast and hug the corners.

And while we're talking about the Z vs the Camaro or Mustang, those two still don't hold a candle to the outstanding looks of the Z. They just don't compare at all to the Z in style and design.

Anywho...
Style is subjective; personally I like the looks of the 15+ Mustang while the Camaro still looks like a turd IMO. As far as the C7 'Vette not holding onto corners... it beats the Z in every measurable category. For 2x the price it should, but don't go being an import homer while the domestic is obviously superior in this case. Hell, the GT350 beats the crap out of the Z too, both in cornering (surprisingly) and acceleration (not even remotely close).
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Maybe OP's excitement with owing a Z is no longer there? It happens sometimes specially if you have a second favorite. If I ever had to get rid of my Z would most likely be due to practicality (since it's only 2 seats and RWD). Hope that never happens but if it ever did I think my NEXT choice would be.

Subaru WRX

I don't think I could see myself in American Muscle, regardless of how much HP they may have. But as I said before, it's your life and you decision. While you may get burned by some of us regarding your reasons of wanting to change to another car, some of us do bring very good valid points. One thing I'll tell you, Z turns HEADS everywhere, it's a great feeling seeing people smile and point as you are passing by. Camaro's and Mustangs are so common now that they blend in everywhere they go.
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