Building a garage

Chuck33079 · 05-22-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PearlyladyZ

Also may need to take into account other people's cars that may go on the lift so you need plenty of height for those people to(wife, friends, kids, etc).

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This. Mine works fine for my cars and my wife's, but if you have a truck or SUV there's no way I can get the jack to full height.

One thing to remember - once you have a lift, everyone you know will then come and want to use it.

Wiggins3377 · 05-22-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

This. Mine works fine for my cars and my wife's, but if you have a truck or SUV there's no way I can get the jack to full height.

One thing to remember - once you have a lift, everyone you know will then come and want to use it.

I picture a 350z/ RX7 as my next project car and My buddies have FRS' and 240zs so I think I'll be ok.

Chuck33079 · 05-22-2016, 11:47 AM

RapidAir 1/2in. Master Kit, Model# 90500 | Air Compressor Piping Kits| Northern Tool + Equipment

Consider a setup like this so you don't have air lines running everywhere.

Also, don't forget the beer fridge and speakers.

Wiggins3377 · 05-22-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

RapidAir 1/2in. Master Kit, Model# 90500 | Air Compressor Piping Kits| Northern Tool + Equipment

Consider a setup like this so you don't have air lines running everywhere.

Also, don't forget the beer fridge and speakers.

Check and check. I have a 5.1 Polk surround system that I used at my first home but couldn't at my current one. That's definitely going in there.

Hose and electrical reals/ drops as well

Chuck33079 · 05-22-2016, 11:48 AM

Spending the extra money on Racedeck for the floors would be awesome. If I was going to be in my house for more than another year it would be my next project.

Wiggins3377 · 05-22-2016, 11:51 AM

I was considering polishing or sealing the concrete

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Chuck33079 · 05-22-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377

I was considering polishing or sealing the concrete

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I'd stay away from the epoxy coating. It'll lift off unless you prep everything just right. A hot tire will peel it up. Polished concrete may end up being too slick if there's moisture or oil on it.

BGTV8 · 05-22-2016, 04:13 PM

I have a 10m x 20m shed at the back of my property, which is 5 4m x 10m bays, with 3.7m high walls and clear-span gable roof (5m+ at highest point).

The rear wall is lined with 2.1m high racking to store all the race bits and pieces.

I keep my race car trailer and the 6'x4' box trailer in the first bay, second bay is a 4-post hoist - has the Z34 on it at present, the 3rd bay holds my current race car whilst we rebuild the front suspension following lower ball joint failure last year (new uprights, upper and lower arms, steering arm and tie rods plus shock mounts - a total redesign). I have a 2-post hoist to be installed in the race car bay. Both hoists have 3-phase motors and power is dropped from the roof. I have an air-compressor at the back of bay 3 as well.

4th bay stores my Z32TT and my 1972 MGB GT V8 roadie (lazy 380hp).

I have 240v 3-phase available for a large capacity stick welder and maybe a tig as well (I cannot weld for sh1t but my nephew who lives locally has his boiler-maker welding ticket and can weld anything).

Every bay has 4 x 240v single-phase outlets and the floor is 4" reinforced concrete with 8" pads 1m square under the hoist posts

The 5th bay rear third houses benches (stainless tops) with space for mig-welder, parts washer, drill press, grinder/linisher and post-mounted vice. The middle third houses the garden stuff for SWMBO and the front third has the bar fridge, table with kettle (simply cannot bring myself to get a coffee machine in the shed) and a 50" screen on the wall with Dolby 5.1 system underneath, plus an old couch so we can watch motorsport and not annoy the women folk in the house. TV is networked to the house network so I have cable and internet TV available as well.

Recommendations (I have been planning this shed for 40 years !!!!) .........

Thicker floor is mandatory for hoists (Aus standards call for 8" or 200mm)
A sink and cold water is good, hot/cold water is better - no going back into the house to wash up
Heating and cooling is also good, I have a pot-belly wood-burner to go in for winter and a 2nd hand a/c unit for the summer
Acid etch the concrete and paint is with proper paint - I did not do it and bitterly regret it now - I get a "lot" of concrete dust and it is a pita
Shed is remote monitoring alarmed and fitted with IP camera's so I can view it on my phone

The exercise was not cheap but this is our last house before getting that old that I cannot enjoy my hobby, so what the hell ....

Rusty · 05-26-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8

I have a 10m x 20m shed at the back of my property, which is 5 4m x 10m bays, with 3.7m high walls and clear-span gable roof (5m+ at highest point).

The rear wall is lined with 2.1m high racking to store all the race bits and pieces.

I keep my race car trailer and the 6'x4' box trailer in the first bay, second bay is a 4-post hoist - has the Z34 on it at present, the 3rd bay holds my current race car whilst we rebuild the front suspension following lower ball joint failure last year (new uprights, upper and lower arms, steering arm and tie rods plus shock mounts - a total redesign). I have a 2-post hoist to be installed in the race car bay. Both hoists have 3-phase motors and power is dropped from the roof. I have an air-compressor at the back of bay 3 as well.

4th bay stores my Z32TT and my 1972 MGB GT V8 roadie (lazy 380hp).

I have 240v 3-phase available for a large capacity stick welder and maybe a tig as well (I cannot weld for sh1t but my nephew who lives locally has his boiler-maker welding ticket and can weld anything).

Every bay has 4 x 240v single-phase outlets and the floor is 4" reinforced concrete with 8" pads 1m square under the hoist posts

The 5th bay rear third houses benches (stainless tops) with space for mig-welder, parts washer, drill press, grinder/linisher and post-mounted vice. The middle third houses the garden stuff for SWMBO and the front third has the bar fridge, table with kettle (simply cannot bring myself to get a coffee machine in the shed) and a 50" screen on the wall with Dolby 5.1 system underneath, plus an old couch so we can watch motorsport and not annoy the women folk in the house. TV is networked to the house network so I have cable and internet TV available as well.

Recommendations (I have been planning this shed for 40 years !!!!) .........

Thicker floor is mandatory for hoists (Aus standards call for 8" or 200mm)
A sink and cold water is good, hot/cold water is better - no going back into the house to wash up
Heating and cooling is also good, I have a pot-belly wood-burner to go in for winter and a 2nd hand a/c unit for the summer
Acid etch the concrete and paint is with proper paint - I did not do it and bitterly regret it now - I get a "lot" of concrete dust and it is a pita
Shed is remote monitoring alarmed and fitted with IP camera's so I can view it on my phone

The exercise was not cheap but this is our last house before getting that old that I cannot enjoy my hobby, so what the hell ....

.............and we all hate you!

Pure jealous.

Wiggin's, once you build your garage. You'll find out that it's not big enough. They never are once you start putting equipment and stuff in it.

When my dad was alive. He built a garage. Me and my brother told him 30x30 with 8ft high door. We lost. Ended up 30 front and 24 deep, with 7ft door. Never heard my dad cuss before. Once the shell was up. He walked inside and looked around. Me and my brother was there. After he got done looking around. We heard him say, "this isn't fuckin' big enough!" Me and my brother was on the floor.

My brother said, "we told you so". My dad said "shut up" and walked out. So let this be a warning to you about garage sizes.

Chuck33079 · 05-26-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Wiggin's, once you build your garage. You'll find out that it's not big enough. They never are once you start putting equipment and stuff in it.

Yep. Build as big as your lot will allow. It always looks big on paper. Once you get all the shelves and workbenches around the walls, it gets much smaller.

Bonus points for making it two story. Even if you don't finish out the upstairs, it can still be storage. I didn't and I still kick myself.

old guy · 05-26-2016, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yep. Build as big as your lot will allow. It always looks big on paper. Once you get all the shelves and workbenches around the walls, it gets much smaller.

Bonus points for making it two story. Even if you don't finish out the upstairs, it can still be storage. I didn't and I still kick myself.

Agreed! You will never regret it! Put up the largest you can afford, and the biggest your lot / city / township will allow.
I wanted to go larger but the township said: 20 ft. Off the fence line, 20 ft. Off the septic field,50ft. Away from the pond. Ended up with 30 x36 gambrel style pole barn with an up stairs & 9ft. Door. Built in 2004 was completely empty and now is completely full ... Go figure. Lol.

Dirk McGurck · 05-22-2016, 09:09 PM

I have a 19x11 garage. My Z barely fits. I hope this helps.

YzGyz · 05-22-2016, 10:53 PM

Yes!! Car lift!! I love mine!! Put lots of lights in there! He'll, if I could I would put a row of them in the concrete floor to shine up under the car when I work and not have to drag a hot as shop light around.

Floor drain is a good idea. Run solid air lines and electric sockets everywhere you can. Add a floor drain in the corner with a spigot. You can detain inside and wash your hands there after messing wth the car Savin the doors from grease. Add insulation on all walls and garage door. Have a space in one of the walls where you can plop a window ac unit. Cheap and easy AC.

YzGyz.

YzGyz

Spooler · 05-23-2016, 12:11 AM

I have the Roof of a 24ft by 36 foot started that is 10ft high on the sides. The arch in the middle is taller. Get what you want right off the bat, it is cheaper.

scottIN · 05-23-2016, 06:31 AM

Best thing I ever did when I built my garage a few years ago was do a 2-room set-up. Cars only in the front, and then garden tools, etc. in the back. When people see it, they love it. No worries about a rake falling off the wall or tripping on a bag of potting soil when you are getting out of the car.

05-22-2016, 11:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29540	RapidAir 1/2in. Master Kit, Model# 90500 \| Air Compressor Piping Kits\| Northern Tool + Equipment Consider a setup like this so you don't have air lines running everywhere. Also, don't forget the beer fridge and speakers. LMBmikeZ, Wiggins3377 and Ghostvette like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29540	Spending the extra money on Racedeck for the floors would be awesome. If I was going to be in my house for more than another year it would be my next project. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 22	I have a 19x11 garage. My Z barely fits. I hope this helps. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

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YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 64	Yes!! Car lift!! I love mine!! Put lots of lights in there! He'll, if I could I would put a row of them in the concrete floor to shine up under the car when I work and not have to drag a hot as shop light around. Floor drain is a good idea. Run solid air lines and electric sockets everywhere you can. Add a floor drain in the corner with a spigot. You can detain inside and wash your hands there after messing wth the car Savin the doors from grease. Add insulation on all walls and garage door. Have a space in one of the walls where you can plop a window ac unit. Cheap and easy AC. YzGyz. YzGyz __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,153 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	I have the Roof of a 24ft by 36 foot started that is 10ft high on the sides. The arch in the middle is taller. Get what you want right off the bat, it is cheaper. GaleForce and WI_Hedgehog like this.

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scottIN Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Castle, Indiana Posts: 764 Drives: '12 370Z Rep Power: 56	Best thing I ever did when I built my garage a few years ago was do a 2-room set-up. Cars only in the front, and then garden tools, etc. in the back. When people see it, they love it. No worries about a rake falling off the wall or tripping on a bag of potting soil when you are getting out of the car. Wiggins3377, GaleForce and WI_Hedgehog like this.

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